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re: 3* Recruits - LSU Football
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:53 am to BayouTiga
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:53 am to BayouTiga
Not all 3 stars are equal.
Huh, right? We can all agree on that?
-In state vs out of state
-timing of commit
-Long term projection of player
1- program filler? - should be taken at end of class
2- limited exposure player- take whenever, with the idea he will
3- elite tool guy (think DJ chark)
Huh, right? We can all agree on that?
-In state vs out of state
-timing of commit
-Long term projection of player
1- program filler? - should be taken at end of class
2- limited exposure player- take whenever, with the idea he will
3- elite tool guy (think DJ chark)
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Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:56 am to supersaints9
Supersaints9:
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Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:57 am to Lester Earl
I agree but I think there's areas in the country I would trust no recruiting service to evaluate a 3* or lower recruit. Louisiana is definitely on the list as they don't scout the state for shite at one of the best per capita state's for NFL talent.
Stamps rating right now suggests he's nothing more than a program filler by the rating scale. A higher rated 3* would be someone who has elite tools that can develop into an all-american if you're lucky but extremely raw/project. Does anyone think Stamps is that kind of player when LSU saw his performance and thought to immediately extend an offer seeing his ability against blue chips? Clearly he stood out which doesn't support his rating.
Stamps rating right now suggests he's nothing more than a program filler by the rating scale. A higher rated 3* would be someone who has elite tools that can develop into an all-american if you're lucky but extremely raw/project. Does anyone think Stamps is that kind of player when LSU saw his performance and thought to immediately extend an offer seeing his ability against blue chips? Clearly he stood out which doesn't support his rating.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 10:02 am
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:00 am to BayouTiga
I agree with your assessment. Dan Mullen at Mississippi State would get two and three store guys. These guys would stay and we’re willing to be developed. When they were junior and seniors they were leaders and pretty good football players. Mullen had a couple of good years ranked in the top five with senior leader ship.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:03 am to deuce985
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Louisiana is definitely on the list as they don't scout the state for shite at one of the best per capita state's for NFL talent.
absolutely
im trying to fight the urge of openly saying that i feel like Kelly is still under the impression he is recruiting for ND and not LSU, but will reserve judgement and see how the class shakes out in-state.
I get that the state does not put out Edge talent, so they have to dip around for that.
but im trying to see what makes Whit Weeks and early take, or the guy from LV playing at the powerhouse HS that does not have much of an offer list. I will have to monitor his SR year to see more.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:05 am to skullhawk
In today’s world the four and five star players you speak of more than likely will transfer out if they are not starters or getting a ton of playing time. So you have to have Depp and three star players who may be or not starters will feel the depth need. It is a challenge to build a roster these days not knowing when a player will just say hey I am transferring out. So you better get some of these talented three star players that Sestarters at a major program just to feel your roster and have Depp late in the season when injuries or abundant
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:11 am to logansrun
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Think about this. BK worked out individually WRs Miller #7 in Louisiana and Parker #88 in Texas and chose to offer the 750th ranked player in the country in Parker over the more highly "rated" Miller. Time will tell who is the better player but I trust the evaluation process under BK over some sports reporter trying to sell their publications.
Now I do agree with you here. Camp offers say a lot to me. That's how you see a kid’s competitive spirit.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:22 am to skullhawk
3stars are usually room fillers. Every now and then one will over achieve. Can’t beat Bama going to dollar general.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:23 am to skullhawk
a few 3 starts are fine, its the balance of getting 2-3 5s that is needed.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:48 am to Lester Earl
His offer list probably isn't complete. Who knows. Hughes isn't scouted but maybe his knock isn't his playing ability. He looks like a 4* the problem is his top end speed isn't great. I think it's like a 4.7 or something like that. Makes me wonder if they're going to move him to S since he has a bigger frame no?
I will say the one area I would criticize BK on is the hire of Cooks. I didn't like that hire and I don't know where we'll go in recruiting but I'll guess we'll wait for results.
I will say the one area I would criticize BK on is the hire of Cooks. I didn't like that hire and I don't know where we'll go in recruiting but I'll guess we'll wait for results.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 10:50 am
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:50 am to deuce985
I thought maybe FS for Hughes, he said outside CB tho in a Moscona interview.
I guess he can go under the radar like Stamps has, who is also at another high exposure school. Just kind of rare though. You know a ton of people have been through Gorman to watch games. Rummel has been a little down the last few years
I guess he can go under the radar like Stamps has, who is also at another high exposure school. Just kind of rare though. You know a ton of people have been through Gorman to watch games. Rummel has been a little down the last few years
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:54 am to Lester Earl
I'd have to think if they're offering this early they're confident in his ability. Did he camp at LSU? I don't remember reading anything about him at camp unless I missed it. I know sometimes coaches let position guys give input on who they should offer so maybe our DB coaches are high on him.
He comes from an area that's also poorly scouted similar to Louisiana. He does have a lot of west offers but it's hard to say if that's his full offer list considering the lack of resources that way.
He comes from an area that's also poorly scouted similar to Louisiana. He does have a lot of west offers but it's hard to say if that's his full offer list considering the lack of resources that way.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 10:56 am
Posted on 7/10/22 at 11:05 am to BayouTiga
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if BK extends an offer, they can play ball at the college level.
Lol what an understatement. It’s LSU. Do y’all have any idea how many college football programs there are in this country? You know where LSU is on the Peking order in general. These coaches came to lsu because they can get the BEST. Tge best according to their vast knowledge. Not the best according to a recruiting service that relies on subscribers. Coaches have to win games or they lose their jobs. They are judging players based on wether they can help them win the SEC West. This is not the fricking sunbelt conference. These are not simply players that can play at the college level.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 12:16 pm to coondaddy21
You would rather be Miss State
Posted on 7/10/22 at 12:32 pm to BayouTiga
What is y’all’s deal with three star players , every year , every school in the country has them in the class
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:25 pm to skullhawk
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I promise you you’ll have more success signing mostly top 150 prospects than not. Plenty of 3* players can and will perform at an elite level, but you better not make up the majority of your roster with them, or you'll put a ceiling on your program.
Which would be a fair argument if we had a bunch of 3 stars, but we don't. Hughes and Weeks will definitely be some flavor of 4 star by the time early signing day comes around, Hughes is the number 1 at basically Las Vegas IMG and Weeks was also targeted by two of the greatest defensive minds in college football. This class probably won't be top 5, but it's not going to be far off from that. Given that we didn't have a full 2 year recruiting cycle because it's a first year coach, that's pretty damn good.
Also, just fyi Weeks legitimately is the hollywood underdog kind of guy. 4.0 high school GPA, is going to graduate early to early enroll, works at one of the family restaurants purely for the discipline of it (Mom+Dad's idea obviously, but the Weeks family own ~10 restaurants for some perspective of their wealth), and his dad brags about him on twitter more than he does (and his dad isn't a loud mouth).
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:25 pm to Tigerpride18
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I have no problem with 3 star but if you think you are going to be a contender with majority 3 stars then you are fooling yourself
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:41 pm to Kocin
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I have no problem with 3 star but if you think you are going to be a contender with majority 3 stars then you are fooling yourself
Did anyone indicate a majority of 3 stars would be a winning strategy?
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:44 pm to Lester Earl
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Not all 3 stars are equal.
Lamar Jackson, Ravens
Russell Wilson, Broncos
Aaron Donald, Rams
Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
Michael Thomas, Saints
Very true all these guys were 3 stars. Most of them would have probably been considered undersized. Some played baseball at a high level so didn't really do the football camps. In short they weren't evaluated as 4 or 5 stars but I can bet you whoever recruited them saw what they had inside.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:44 pm to Kocin
BK has forgotten more about this subject than anyone here on this forum knows. BK has a plan offering a three star relatively early in the recruitment process....
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