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re: Does Men’s BB lose the recent BIG commits?
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:37 am to mmcgrath
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:37 am to mmcgrath
There is a paper trail of Mickey, Martin, and Quarter man being paid during Johnny's tenure. Crickets from the NCAA.
It's laughable that people think Wade is a bad coach. I haven't researched it, but I bet he's top 25 AT LEAST in winning percentage over his 9 years as a HC. He had the best SEC record out of all the other schools during his 5 years here. But you and others claim he's not a good coach.
It's laughable that people think Wade is a bad coach. I haven't researched it, but I bet he's top 25 AT LEAST in winning percentage over his 9 years as a HC. He had the best SEC record out of all the other schools during his 5 years here. But you and others claim he's not a good coach.
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:25 am to tigahlovah
Wade recruited like a top 10 program. Jones had some top players but not a team stacked with talent like Wade did.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:09 pm to mmcgrath
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Wade was marginally better on tge court, but that isn't saying much.
Your unmitigated stupidity never ceases to amaze, and apparently isn’t confined to any 1 board.
After inheriting the shitshow of a program Jones left behind, Wade won the SEC, finished top 3 in the conference 3/5 years, made what would’ve been 4 straight ncaa tournaments without covid cancellation, and had the best winning percentage in the sec during his tenure.
Jones was an abject failure on every level as a coach.
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Wade is also going to be responsible for the dire state of the program over the next few years, while Jones didn't draw any sanctions.
Jones was responsible for the fire state of the program Wade inherited. A program that was 2-14 in a bad SEC the prior year, after failing to make the ncaa tournament with the #1 overall pick the year before that.
Wade killed the program by trying to make it great.
Jones killed the program by being a terrible fricking coach.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 7:44 am to BobBarker
Look no-one knows... We need to hire a coach soon. I doubt we loose all of them.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 7:46 am to GeauxtigersMs36
Please lets use a little more hyperbole ! The sky is not falling, if we pull in the right coach we will be fine.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:09 am to Open Your Eyes
quote:Jones finished top 3 in the conference 2/5 years, had one losing season like Wade and won one game in the NCAA tournament.
After inheriting the shitshow of a program Jones left behind, Wade won the SEC, finished top 3 in the conference 3/5 years, made what would’ve been 4 straight ncaa tournaments without covid cancellation, and had the best winning percentage in the sec during his tenure.
Like I said, Wade was a marginally better coach.
However, unlike Wade Jones didn't leave the team facing multiple years of sanctions and Jones was able to coach at other schools.
quote:You left out the part about how great the program was when Jones got it.
Jones was responsible for the fire state of the program Wade inherited. A program that was 2-14 in a bad SEC the prior year, after failing to make the ncaa tournament with the #1 overall pick the year before that.
quote:No. Jones did not kill the program. Like any basketball program it was ready to succeed in a single recruiting class.
Wade killed the program by trying to make it great.
Jones killed the program by being a terrible fricking coach.
Wade is the only coach of the two who has "killed" the program as no coach on Earth can succeed facing postseason bans and reduced scholarships like Wade did.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:01 pm to mmcgrath
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Jones finished top 3 in the conference 2/5 years, had one losing season like Wade and won one game in the NCAA tournament.
You left out SEC championship, 4 consecutive tournaments, best winning percentage in the sec during his tenure, all after inheriting the shitshow Jones left behind.
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Like I said, Wade was a marginally better coach.
You don’t know what marginally means. Not surprising.
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However, unlike Wade Jones didn't leave the team facing multiple years of sanctions
Jones left the team with the 2nd worst record in the SEC and the worst record in program history since 1967
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and Jones was able to coach at other schools.
Attempt to explain why this is relevant.
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You left out the part about how great the program was when Jones got it.
The program that was 7-9 in the sec and coming off an NIT birth when Jones got it? How does that compare to the program he left behind for Wade?
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No. Jones did not kill the program.
Yes, he absolutely did. After the huge letdown of the Ben Simmons year followed by the worst season in 50 years, Jones handed Wade a team with 5 players from the previous year’s roster. That is a dead program.
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Like any basketball program it was ready to succeed in a single recruiting class.
Then the next coach will be able to be successful next year with a single recruiting class.
If Wade is only a marginally better coach than jones, why was jones never able to succeed with a single recruiting class, while Wade was able to do it year after year?
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Wade is the only coach of the two who has "killed" the program as no coach on Earth can succeed facing postseason bans and reduced scholarships like Wade did.
Bruce Pearl is literally doing it this year. How stupid are you, exactly?
Posted on 3/17/22 at 2:52 pm to Juan Betanzos
I BELIEVE OUR TEAM IS HISTORY!
Posted on 3/18/22 at 10:56 pm to Chalkywhite84
So Woody should hire a hs coach because that is what we are going to have as a team for 2-3 years minimum.
Once sanctions are over, we can hire a top coach if the HS coach can't bring us a winner with hs quality players.
I can't imagine a single player will come back to LSU next year from this team. Why spend 5 million dollars in a 5 yr contract? 25 million with no chance to recruit or win anything. That's idiotic.
Just punt until it is over.
Once sanctions are over, we can hire a top coach if the HS coach can't bring us a winner with hs quality players.
I can't imagine a single player will come back to LSU next year from this team. Why spend 5 million dollars in a 5 yr contract? 25 million with no chance to recruit or win anything. That's idiotic.
Just punt until it is over.
Posted on 3/19/22 at 6:14 pm to Juan Betanzos
We can probably get enough from the intramural teams to field a team. I’m sure some of them might be willing to play.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:21 am to 504everNOLA
Yep all of them
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:32 am to bayoubilly57
New hire will hit the portal really hard.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Hopefully he can bring over that sophomore guard averaging 13 a game for Murray this year.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 2:22 pm to mmcgrath
Was lurking this thread during lunch and I just had to comment - you are getting absolutely dicked in this thread lolol. Go ahead and don't post next time you think about posting, k?
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:34 pm to DBeaux225
If you are referring to the SEC tourney game he left town to go to his grandfathers funeral.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:12 am to Open Your Eyes
quote:Clearly you view that win over St. Bonaventure much higher than I do.
You don’t know what marginally means. Not surprising.
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Jones left the team with the 2nd worst record in the SEC and the worst record in program history since 1967
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Yes, he absolutely did. After the huge letdown of the Ben Simmons year followed by the worst season in 50 years, Jones handed Wade a team with 5 players from the previous year’s roster. That is a dead program.
The letdown year was bad, not denying it. But Wade was left with a full team, including a serviceable center and some talented guards and wings. That Wade ran half the team off when he got to campus is not the same as being handed only 5 players. Hell, I think Wade ran off more players this past year.
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The program that was 7-9 in the sec and coming off an NIT birth when Jones got it? How does that compare to the program he left behind for Wade?
Starting lineup Jones inherited:
Johnny O'Bryant
Tuba
Edddie Ludwig
Jalen Courtney
Shavon Coleman
Wade inherited:
Duop Reath
Anthony Epps
Brandon Sampson
Wayde Sims (RIP)
Skylar Mays
Looks like Wade inherited more talent to me, but pretty close.
quote:Unfortunately no, not the way Wade left things.
Then the next coach will be able to be successful next year with a single recruiting class.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 2:17 pm to mmcgrath
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Clearly you view that win over St. Bonaventure much higher than I do.
Clearly you view 1 tournament appearance in 5 years, a .467 wining percentage, failure to make the tournament with the #1 pick in the draft, and the worst season in 50 years as basically the same as an SEC Championship, 4 straight tournament appearances in 5 years, and an .625 winning percentage.
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The letdown year was bad, not denying it.
But somehow not as bad as the 2-14 in conference, worst season in 50 years year.
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But Wade was left with a full team, including a serviceable center and some talented guards and wings. That Wade ran half the team off when he got to campus is not the same as being handed only 5 players. Hell, I think Wade ran off more players this past year.
Wade was left with a team that won 2 games in the SEC the year before he got there. The only player he "ran off" that was a meaningful contributor from the previous year was Jalyn Patterson, and he was replaced by Tremont Waters.
Let me guess, Waters was a "marginally" better player than Patterson, right dumbass?
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Starting lineup Jones inherited:
Johnny O'Bryant
Tuba
Edddie Ludwig
Jalen Courtney
Shavon Coleman
That's really weird, Anthony Hickey and Andre Stringer were the top 2 players in minutes played in both 2011-2012 and 2012-2013, but somehow they didn't make on your list of players Jones inherited. Its almost like you're a lying piece of shite. Oh wait, that's exactly what you are.
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Wade inherited:
Duop Reath
Anthony Epps
Brandon Sampson
Wayde Sims (RIP)
Skylar Mays
"Jones handed Wade a team with 5 players from the previous year’s roster."
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Looks like Wade inherited more talent to me, but pretty close.
If Wade is only a marginally better coach than Jones, why was he able to win 6 more games than Jones with the "talent" Jones left behind for him?
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Unfortunately no, not the way Wade left things.
Then any basketball program isn't ready to succeed in a single recruiting class. You're wrong either way, like always.
Tell us again how no coach on Earth could succeed facing postseason bans and scholarship reductions moron.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:06 pm to Juan Betanzos
Question answered as last 5* bailed out.
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