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re: "Storm never had committable offer"
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:29 pm to wahoocs
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:29 pm to wahoocs
care to specifically point out where I was off base?
you do realize almost all lsu fans would disagree wit your assertion that this had nothin to do wit lache. no my friend, you're the one that's off base.
you do realize almost all lsu fans would disagree wit your assertion that this had nothin to do wit lache. no my friend, you're the one that's off base.
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Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:30 pm to CFBFAN1121
I am tired of hearing people pretend they understand exactly what happened. If anyone has links to back up their statements, fine......lets have them here and now to end all this B'shitte.
Truth is none of you do. Probably the only people who know exactly what happened are Storm, his family and the LSU staff.
The "committable offer" mania began last year with Michael. So if you have proof, fine.....but lets stop pretending we are all insiders and "know" what happened.
Truth is none of you do. Probably the only people who know exactly what happened are Storm, his family and the LSU staff.
The "committable offer" mania began last year with Michael. So if you have proof, fine.....but lets stop pretending we are all insiders and "know" what happened.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:31 pm to lynxcat
ok so it was just basically everyday recruiting that goes on at every school and looks like the dad is more at fault than storm or the coaches and it sucks cus i do believe storm wanted to play for us.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I am tired of hearing people pretend they understand exactly what happened. If anyone has links to back up their statements, fine......lets have them here and now to end all this B'shitte.
Truth is none of you do. Probably the only people who know exactly what happened are Storm, his family and the LSU staff.
The "committable offer" mania began last year with Michael. So if you have proof, fine.....but lets stop pretending we are all insiders and "know" what happened.
Use some logic
Recruiting isn't as complicated as some of you make it seem to be if you just take a step back and observe the facts of the case.
Things become self-evident.
This post was edited on 8/8/09 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:32 pm to CFBFAN1121
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you do realize almost all lsu fans would disagree wit your assertion that this had nothin to do wit lache. no my friend, you're the one that's off base.
i thought it was pretty widely accepted that this had more to do with spencer ware, like he posted. why would they let ware commit publicly if they were worried about a larger back scaring lache off? it seems pretty obvious to me that they slow played storm for ware
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:34 pm to dgnx6
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ok so it was just basically everyday recruiting that goes on at every school
Yes. Except every school tries to 'hide' that it does this sort of thing because it hurts their image (as it rightfully should).
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looks like the dad is more at fault than storm or the coaches and it sucks cus i do believe storm wanted to play for us.
I don't think Storm's dad played that huge of a part. If the LSU coaches really wanted Storm, they would have had him--regardless of what his father said.
Just so happens that Ware was higher on the board than Storm, and Lache has a spot saved, so there isn't a spot left for Storm this year.
This post was edited on 8/8/09 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:36 pm to lynxcat
[quote]Use some logic
Recruiting isn't as complicated as some of you make it seem to be if you just take a step back and observe the facts of the case.
Things become self-evident.[/quote]
So you are guessing. Gotcha.
Recruiting isn't as complicated as some of you make it seem to be if you just take a step back and observe the facts of the case.
Things become self-evident.[/quote]
So you are guessing. Gotcha.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:36 pm to CFBFAN1121
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Storm announced to the world that he would personally commit to miles on his bday weeks beforehand. If lsu knew he didn't have a CO and they knew they wouldn't accept it. why let him come to lsu to commit ?
Incorrect. He announced that he would be "committing to commit" on July 11 (I believe that is his birthday as you state). he did not return to LSU to come to the LSU camp later last month. Blue and Lache did attend and perform.
This post was edited on 8/8/09 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:37 pm to lynxcat
yeah i meant his dads fault for blowing this out of proportion. and its not like recruits dont change their minds either
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:38 pm to TulaneTigerFan
He is quickly falling into a category of posters not worthy of a response.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:40 pm to dgnx6
and i do think it is better to offer earlier than later especially storm being from out of state
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:42 pm to CFBFAN1121
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no my friend, you're the one that's off base.
Why do you call people "friends" when clearly they are not.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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So you are guessing. Gotcha.
You think there is ever "proof" in the world of recruiting? Think again.
There is a ton of information that is never posted and never published. Newspapers are retarded (overall) when it comes to actual recruiting news and they get lost in all the "fluff" and never actually understand what "really happened."
Pay sites give as much as they can, but even they have their hands tied because their sources won't let them reveal certain pieces.
The few people that DO know the hard cold facts can't post them until welllllll after the incident because they will lose their sources forever if they do post the actual truth.
If you want some examples, then the Dexter Pratt and Benton ordeals are two circumstances where 99% of LSU fans don't know shite as far as what "really happened."
However, you can use the facts that are allowed to leak and come up with some very logicial, very realistic, and often true reasons as to why a situation played out the way it did.
Use your head--everything isn't always laid out on a platter for us.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:51 pm to lynxcat
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However, you can use the facts that are allowed to leak and come up with some very logicial, very realistic, and often true reasons as to why a situation played out the way it did.
and unfortunately you can use them to fabricate a story that backs up your own biases and beliefs...especially if you don't like one (or all) of the coaches. there are some on here who believe every situation has some sort of sinister conspiracy underneath.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:54 pm to ForeLSU
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and unfortunately you can use them to fabricate a story that backs up your own biases and beliefs...especially if you don't like one (or all) of the coaches. there are some on here who believe every situation has some sort of sinister conspiracy underneath.
That's fair as well. However, I would think that over time the board would be able to see that someone has an agenda against someone and their opinion would be pushed aside.
But yes, I do agree with what you said.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:55 pm to STLSU
stop it. everybody knew storm was planning to come to br and verbally give his commitment. if lsu knew they wouldn't accept it they coulda prevented this young from being embarrassed and heart broken by telling him upfront what the deal was. that's all im sayin
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:57 pm to CFBFAN1121
miles and co. are horrible people
Posted on 8/8/09 at 7:01 pm to CFBFAN1121
i'm sorry to upset you. you made no posting mistakes and i was just giving you a hard time. i will stop it.
PS:
+1 TheEgg
PS:
+1 TheEgg
Posted on 8/8/09 at 7:10 pm to STLSU
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stop it. everybody knew storm was planning to come to br and verbally give his commitment. if lsu knew they wouldn't accept it they coulda prevented this young from being embarrassed and heart broken by telling him upfront what the deal was. that's all im sayin
There is as much evidence to support Miles and Co. pulling the offer, based on new information they have recieved (whether it be on Storm or Seastrunk) as there is of a "non committable" offer. As much circumstantial evidence.
Much like LSU did with Pratt last year, in different circumstances.
Seems whenever a recruiting endeavor goes wrong its either "grades, character or these mysterious non committable offers" and the kids are too stupid to know the difference? Give me a break. Recruiting can get dirty.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 7:17 pm to CFBFAN1121
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stop it. everybody knew storm was planning to come to br and verbally give his commitment. if lsu knew they wouldn't accept it they coulda prevented this young from being embarrassed and heart broken by telling him upfront what the deal was. that's all im sayin
First the term commitable offer is unfortunate since it kind of implies that there is something in writing that makes an offer commitable or not. I really doubt that there is any difference between the two. Offers are caveated that they are conditioned on availability and on going evaluations. The point is that a recruit should talk to a coach before he announces to the world that he is going to commit as that commitment may or may not be accepted because of the caveated reasons. Storm's problem resulted from his announcement and it was impossible to completely save face at the point. It seems to me that Miles and company tried to give them a way to back out gracefully, but they chose not to.
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