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re: This kid sounds really talented
Posted on 1/25/09 at 2:10 pm to lsuougel
Posted on 1/25/09 at 2:10 pm to lsuougel
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Have a question. When a kid like this stays under the radar for so long, what contributes to this? I mean was it the coaches not sending any tapes out? Our did he just have a great senior year? I don't get how someone so talented could be overlooked.
I don't know because most of the local gys up here that follow highschool football have been talking about him since last year. But did say that he would have to do well in camps and what not because it didn't seem like may schools were paying attention to him.
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Posted on 1/25/09 at 2:14 pm to lsuougel
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When a kid like this stays under the radar for so long, what contributes to this?
He really wasn't under the radar as much as he was thought to be below LSU's radar. He was being recruited by the likes of LaTech, Ole Miss, Miss St, Nebraska & aTm. I can't remember which schools he actually had offers from, but the list is impressive... just not the caliber of LSU, UF, OU, USC.
He was at LSU's camp over the summer, so the coaches must have liked what they saw. I also think playing QB his Sr. year has something to do with it. He had the ball on every down.
Also, I think his HS played a factor. It is an inner-city school. A lot of coaches at these schools occupy their time ensuring their players stay out of trouble, go to class, make their grades, etc. Not a lot of time left to start promoting a player as a Soph or Jr to recruiters.
This post was edited on 1/25/09 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 1/25/09 at 2:59 pm to Peachtree Tiger
Everyone was blamming Les for recruiting a 2 star player. Now he is an Advocate top twelve.
The HAT knows.
The HAT knows.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 3:29 pm to 8enga1s
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I was looking at a Athlon Sports Mag. awhile ago most of the time these 5* and 4* guys don't even cut it when they get to school you need the no-name guys that are hungry and want to show people they deserve the scholarship
We agree, highly-evaluated talent is worthless.
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Posted on 1/25/09 at 3:32 pm to Ghost of Colby
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He was being recruited by the likes of LaTech, Ole Miss, Miss St, Nebraska & aTm. I can't remember which schools he actually had offers from, but the list is impressive
Posted on 1/25/09 at 3:33 pm to Teacher
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Everyone was blamming Les for recruiting a 2 star player. Now he is an Advocate top twelve.
The HAT knows.
or because the Baton Rouge paper is biased toward LSU recruits
Posted on 1/25/09 at 5:46 pm to Derby Tigah
derby tiger, you are a sack of shite, every comment these guys make you insult them . you no nothing about morris claiborne but i assure you you will know him. plus you should support a la kid thats fortunate enough to recieve a offer from lsu.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 5:54 pm to adam32
He comes from a high school, Fair Park, that has produced great athletes thru the years. Stromile Swift for one. Ronnie Prude was from there. Before him a Robinson kid that was a very good receiver for LSU some time back. Davenport, Logan, and Claiborne do not come from your typical football factories, but it doesn't mean they can't produce when coached up. They have all the tools at their respective positions.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 6:33 pm to adam32
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derby tiger, you are a sack of shite,
Derby is an expert from the great state of FL. He goes to HS games all the time, and every team in FL has dozens of guys that can run sub 4.4 40s. Why would LSU recruit a guy from Shreveport when Les could just walk into FL a pull a guy off the trash pile that is better?
Posted on 1/25/09 at 6:37 pm to Derby Tigah
Read my whole point jackass. Don't just pull out a quote. My point was Claiborne was not flying under the radar. He had dozens of schools recruiting him, and several BCS schools had offers on the table.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 9:07 pm to tandyman
Don't leave out Lee Hedges.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 9:41 pm to Ghost of Colby
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Don't just pull out a quote. My point was Claiborne was not flying under the radar. He had dozens of schools recruiting him, and several BCS schools had offers on the table.
so? Nobody in the region with any good recruiting prowess was after the kid except us... and none of the recruiting sites even knew who he was - or anyone else outside of Shreveport for that matter
And I'll say it again: I never said he sucked... I'm just intrigued to understand why the coaches extended an offer... what did they see? Obviously, I mean specifically and not generally
Posted on 1/25/09 at 9:56 pm to Derby Tigah
morris claiborne is one of the best athletes to come out of the shreveport area in the last several years. most recruiting services under estimated his value as a player. i've seen several films of the same type of player, and none are more impressive as claiborne. plus he's a good kid that will represent lsu just fine.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 10:00 pm to 8enga1s
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I was looking at a Athlon Sports Mag. awhile ago most of the time these 5* and 4* guys don't even cut it when they get to school you need the no-name guys that are hungry and want to show people they deserve the scholarship they are given not just talking to support the guy I have seen film on the Kid he has talent.
Longest sentence ever.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 10:07 pm to 8enga1s
whats he project at the next level?
Posted on 1/25/09 at 10:15 pm to Acreboy
The kid looked a real good athlete. I think after a year of weights and being worked with by the coaches he could be a damn good player. Wether that be corner or slot.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 10:46 pm to 8enga1s
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I was looking at a Athlon Sports Mag. awhile ago most of the time these 5* and 4* guys don't even cut it when they get to school you need the no-name guys that are hungry and want to show people they deserve the scholarship they are given not just talking to support the guy I have seen film on the Kid he has talent.
Please learn to use the written English language with proficiency.
Most 4 and 5 stars do statistically "pan out."
Derby has been spot on with everything he has posted in this thread. CB seems logical but we are already loaded there. Slot WR seems like the next logical position.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 10:55 pm to lynxcat
Also guys, just because a kid signs with LSU does not mean he must be hailed as a future all-american.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a sane discussion on a message board -- even if you have a pessimistic feeling about a player.
I am "higher" and "lower" on certain prospects that we sign and almost always give a reason as to why I feel that way.
Derby is correct in saying a guy with Claiborne's size is a "dime a dozen" in the south. I will say that most prospects do not look as fluid as him, but 6' 180 and a 4.5 are solid D1 measurables that can be expected from every skill position player LSU (or any SEC school) signs.
I do not see any problem in Derby wondering what the coaches see in the kid?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a sane discussion on a message board -- even if you have a pessimistic feeling about a player.
I am "higher" and "lower" on certain prospects that we sign and almost always give a reason as to why I feel that way.
Derby is correct in saying a guy with Claiborne's size is a "dime a dozen" in the south. I will say that most prospects do not look as fluid as him, but 6' 180 and a 4.5 are solid D1 measurables that can be expected from every skill position player LSU (or any SEC school) signs.
I do not see any problem in Derby wondering what the coaches see in the kid?
Posted on 1/25/09 at 11:25 pm to lynxcat
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but 6' 180 and a 4.5 are solid D1 measurables that can be expected from every skill position player LSU
those arent ordinary measurables dude
LSU is expected to sign elite athletes like this. Which is why I dont see what the problem is.
6' 180 4.5 speed isnt pedestrian. Couple that with what seems to be great athleticism, and they are probably on to something.
as far as Derby saying he was under radar, well thats just stupid. LSU was obviously on to him. Just because you didnt read about him on Rivals doesnt mean he isnt any good.
Fair Park isnt exactly a fertile recruiting grounds. When you play on shitty teams, some times its hard for a school to find you, even if you are a really good HS player like Claiborne.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 11:54 pm to Derby Tigah
Im from shreveport, but also lived in the orlando area for 4 years.I watch as many high school games as possible wherever i live.The difference between the two areas is very simple.Florida schools have better facilities,coaching,weather,and exposure.Louisiana per capita has much better athletes.How many times has an all world skill position player from florida (highly rated by all your great recruiting services)shown up at lsu unable to succeed? La players at florida schools?
You questioning the validity of this player's talent simply because of who you have seen play is wrong.I have seen him play,and if he had gone to Apopka or Oviedo, he would be 5 stars and heavily recruited by uf,mia,and fsu.
You questioning the validity of this player's talent simply because of who you have seen play is wrong.I have seen him play,and if he had gone to Apopka or Oviedo, he would be 5 stars and heavily recruited by uf,mia,and fsu.
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