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re: what were dinardo's class's like
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:00 am to tigermike200444
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:00 am to tigermike200444
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he had some good classes.k.faulk,t.banks
Remember his last year, the last game he didn't coach, Hal Hunter did. We played the #11 ranked team in the nation. They were heading to play in the SECCG. We took and beat them by 25 pts. The game wasn't even close. We had some talent, just wasn't used right.
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Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:01 am to Keys Open Doors
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We definitely would have signed Lacy, Sentimore, and Tahj Jones. Dinardo signed lots of guys who wouldn't qualify academically.
True.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:18 am to LA007
DiNardo's last team was so thin due to attrition and people not ever making it to campus that the team wasn't able to dress the full number in 99.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 1:52 am to misey94
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DiNardo's last team was so thin due to attrition and people not ever making it to campus that the team wasn't able to dress the full number in 99.
Yeah..damn just turrible! Cupboard was left bare! Only 11 or 12 NFL Players Drafted players & a ton of Free Agents like Ryan Clark. Whatevah happened to dat Ryan Clark?
This post was edited on 1/24/09 at 1:55 am
Posted on 1/24/09 at 4:55 am to Spankum
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before Saban and Miles, we typically got no national recruits..
before LSU won a National Title, we typically got no national recruits.....
fixed it for you!!!
Posted on 1/24/09 at 6:33 am to Spankum
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before Saban and Miles, we typically got no national recruits...mostlyin-state 3 stars with a few 4 stars....
think ole miss/miss st type classes....
no dice. the in state guys that dinardo picked up from La. were highly recruited, mainly in the south, which is good enough. Rohan, Kevin Faulk, Josh and Abram Booty, A. MCFarland, Josh Reed were all pretty big recruits on a national level or at least huge in the region. we didn't take as many JUCOs as MS and Ole Miss, but we did seem to take a lot more of the fringe guys as far as grades and character than we do now. I agree that we weren't on nearly as many consideration lists for the "national recruits", but that comes with the hardware. I honestly think DiNardo if put into this exact situation, without his own history to hold him back, would fare real well as a recruiter with LSU's current image. I think he would make some grand mistakes in player evaluation , and we would let the wrong one get away. Lockdown Les is just a bit better.
This post was edited on 1/24/09 at 6:36 am
Posted on 1/24/09 at 6:43 am to Sammich
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Yeah..damn just turrible! Cupboard was left bare!
2-8 in 1999 before his firing.
8 game losing streak
Streak ended with a loss to Houston at home.
Real slick, Gerry.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 6:52 am to Rocket
You know that talent level was not the problem in '98 and '99.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 6:57 am to misey94
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DiNardo's last team was so thin due to attrition and people not ever making it to campus that the team wasn't able to dress the full number in 99.
I think it was more like Gerry started getting mucho paranoid and started punishing a quarter of the team by not allowing all of them to dress. Work hard practice all week, watch us in the stands. Team killer.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 6:59 am to bgtiger
I'm really not fond of the term "talent level". I'm not sure how you calculate it. What was our "talent level" then? 8.25? 6.344? Or is it just a high-medium-low thing?
Nonetheless, I think we had athletes good enough to win 8-9 games each year. I don't think we had the athletes to win an SEC title.
DiNardo had 2 weak coordinators, an allegedly weak strenth and conditioning program, attrition, and lost the football team.
There was only so much success we were ever going to have with Gerry D.
Nonetheless, I think we had athletes good enough to win 8-9 games each year. I don't think we had the athletes to win an SEC title.
DiNardo had 2 weak coordinators, an allegedly weak strenth and conditioning program, attrition, and lost the football team.
There was only so much success we were ever going to have with Gerry D.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 7:00 am to bgtiger
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dinardo picked up from La. were highly recruited, mainly in the south, which is good enough. Rohan,
Rohan from Fla.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 7:10 am to Bobby Moore
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before LSU won a National Title, we typically got no national recruits.....
What the frick is this "we" shite, Bulldog Bobby? Take your punk arse to a MSU board.
There is no telling what you think qualifies as a "national" recruit.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 7:20 am to Rocket
I'm comfortable with the term "talent level". I find it quite obvious we had plenty of talent then. The players from those teams have littered NFL rosters for a few years now, so I feel confident that we had a level of defensive talent good enough to hold opposing offenses under a measly 35 points per game. That didn't happen. Linebackers turning,with backs to the line of scrimmage, sprinting fifteen to twenty yards to the middle of the field to "cover" rb's , te's, and frickin slot recievers didn't help one bit. Bottom line is DiNardo could not handle the scrutiny that comes with a job like the HC of LSU, became paranoid and would not do what anyone who had eyes could see needed to be done, axe Tepper. Those two years we averaged something like 33 ppg and gave up 35ppg, or so. Gerry just lost it.
I completely agree that he could only get us so far. He did lift us up quite a bit.
I completely agree that he could only get us so far. He did lift us up quite a bit.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 7:21 am to Good Times
He was a "national recruit". I mixed him in there without qualifying why.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 7:40 am to bgtiger
Plenty of talent for what? To win about 8-9 games a year?
We gave up an average of 25 points/game in 1998 and 23 points/game in 1999.
And I'm not sure what you mean by "lift us up". His last two seasons we only had 6 wins while he was the coach. He had enough athletes in his first 3 years to win 26 games including some bowl wins. His first 3 years were fun, no doubt.
The '99 season was absolutely miserable. There was nothing fun about it. It's easy to look back because we're winning and go easy on DiNardo. I was not lifted up. That sucked and I never want to experience that again.
We gave up an average of 25 points/game in 1998 and 23 points/game in 1999.
And I'm not sure what you mean by "lift us up". His last two seasons we only had 6 wins while he was the coach. He had enough athletes in his first 3 years to win 26 games including some bowl wins. His first 3 years were fun, no doubt.
The '99 season was absolutely miserable. There was nothing fun about it. It's easy to look back because we're winning and go easy on DiNardo. I was not lifted up. That sucked and I never want to experience that again.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 8:20 am to Rocket
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2-8 in 1999 before his firing.
8 game losing streak
Streak ended with a loss to Houston at home.
Real slick, Gerry.
..and enough talent to beat the snot out of highly ranked R-Kansas. What does that have to do with a thread about Gerry's classes?
Posted on 1/24/09 at 8:24 am to Rocket
BTW Rocket,
The last LB'er to get drafted from LSU was Bradie James, a DiNardo recruit.
The last LB'er to get drafted from LSU was Bradie James, a DiNardo recruit.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 8:31 am to watigerdz
Dinardo's classes were great. The 2001 championship was won with Dinardo recruits. Folks quickly forgot that. But it isn't like Saban couldn't coach. The team might not have won without the coaching changes, but the talent was already in place. Same for the Miles. The talent was in place for him to win. But Miles has both continued the good coaching and the good recruiting. He may (very possibly) win another within the next couple of years with his own recruits. Saban can't say that.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 8:35 am to Sammich
That's great and all but Bradie James' don't come around that often in this state. Miles ain't signed someone like Bradie and may never.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 8:51 am to Rocket
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That's great and all but Bradie James' don't come around that often in this state. Miles ain't signed someone like Bradie and may never.
Nor did Miles' predecessor. At the time, Dinardo signed two, T. Faulk and B. James. I wish Faulk would've stuck around for his final year. Poor guy got some terrible advice about entering the draft.
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