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Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:24 pm to the_watcher
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At halftime of an Alabama game that LSU was losing and after running into a brick wall of 8 defenders the entire half for barely 40 yards rushing, Les told the offense verbatim "We are going to impose our will on them until they break"
Assuming that story is true, that had to be just totally deflating as a player to hear, realizing that your coach just didn't have the faintest clue.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:31 pm to Nuts4LSU
"Bend don't break" is a philosophy for a lot of defenses. Ole Les thinks the bend part is the key 
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:36 pm to atltiger6487
quote:When it comes to the current LSU team... yes.
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Les Miles has left the building. OK?
So have Mathieu, Peterson, OBJ, Fournette, etc.
Should we ignore them too?
Too much is being made of this. I'm pretty sure Miles' approach was to get the best players he could get, and then run the team accordingly, and if that matched up against another team's strength, so be it. There's precisely one team in all of college football that didn't work against, and they happen to be in the same division.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:58 pm to Scoob
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I'm pretty sure Miles' approach was to get the best players he could get, and then run the team accordingly, and if that matched up against another team's strength, so be it. There's precisely one team in all of college football that didn't work against, and they happen to be in the same division.
Could be true but that is not what has come out of his mouth.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:30 am to geauxtigahs87
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The fact that he still holds onto this philosophy even AFTER being fired because of it speaks volumes. I don't miss him at all
I can understand why he held that philosophy. That was how the game used to be played. However, when you look at established, big name coaches who have been fired or forced out over the last 10 years, a lot of them bought it because of this very thing- the inability to adapt to change in college football. Phil Fullmer, Bobby Bowden, Loyd Carr, Frank Beamer, of course good ole Les, and I’m sure there are more. Those are just the ones that quickly come to mind. All had great success, but they all got passed by the game.
It is shocking that Miles is still holding to that philosophy. If I were an AD of a good P5 school, I wouldn’t consider hiring him after hearing that. That philosophy won’t win titles in a major conference anymore.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:35 am to Scoob
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Y'all do understand, this is the exact approach Saban took to building a team that could beat LSU. We were a physical beast of a program, built on 230 lb backs running the toss dive right up the gut, and expanding the offense from there. Hester, Scott, etc. We also featured a fast, strong and dominant defense capable of snuffing out most offenses, and particularly those that tried to run up our gut. Saban didn't come in with a Sumlin offense and try to outscore us, he attacked LSU right at the point of attack- he stuffed the run. And then he ran right at us. So I guess he's idiotic, too... or maybe he just got more players, and won the straight-up battles on the field.
In 2007, that was still the dominant style of football in the SEC and a large chunk of the P5. What is notable about Saban is that he ADAPTED as things changed, and his teams have gotten even better with more potent offenses because of it.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:34 am to STEVED00
quote:You can do that with Bama's OL/DL. Not LSU's.
Reminds me of that car battery commercial with the 2 kids trying to hammer the circle peg into the square hole. "ITS NOT GOING IN!" "JUST KEEP HITTING IT!"
That Sq Pg Rd Ho scenario was also the LM/CC "Carved in Granite" QB recruiting philosophy..............
Posted on 9/9/17 at 8:58 am to Scoob
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he attacked LSU right at the point of attack
stop making this shite out to be like saban was running against 8 and 9 man fronts in predictable situations all the time and not throwing to intermediate and short middle like les does not do post 2008. Saban contrary to popular belief used plenty of the field as needed to balance his offense. They used horizontal stretches. They went deep off of PA. In the title game they nickeled and dimed us to death. They made changes. That is not attacking us at the point of attack. That was getting around our Dl with quick throws underneath that moved the chains. Saban has continually evolved his offense. he has had good OC's in applewhite, McELwain and kiffin and now daboll. HE may not run full throttle power spread like CUM and GUS but he uses elements of it with hurts and also did it with syms.
maybe you need to go have another scoobie snack scoob
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 9:05 am
Posted on 9/9/17 at 9:17 am to Scoob
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There's precisely one team in all of college football that didn't work against
really? is that why miles had a losing record against arky and ole miss his last 3 years? how did that strategy work against Notre Dame and clemson in bowl games? Did that strategy always work at auburn? There are so many holes in your argument it resembles swiss cheese!
Posted on 9/9/17 at 9:20 am to Abe1961
I mean if it's UT-Chattanooga or whatever it makes sense. If it's a team with any talent, no that's retarded.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 9:26 am to Fat Bastard
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is that why miles had a losing record against arky and ole miss his last 3 years?
I love arbitrary year cutoffs to try to make a point.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:21 am to LNCHBOX
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I love arbitrary year cutoffs to try to make a point.
The point--->
your head-:jump1:
i doubt you can figure it out so i will do it for you. he was alluding that bama was the ONLY team that could ever stop miles' impose your will gameplans. That is patently false. reread the thread better next time or go back and watch some games and educate yourself .
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:32 am to Scoob
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There's precisely one team in all of college football that didn't work against, and they happen to be in the same division.
LSU finished with one loss, one time. It didn't work vs anyone with similar talent.
The defenses carried his teams. They lived and died by it.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:48 am to Fat Bastard
As usual, you're just a condescending a-hole in any thread with Miles's name in it. Your shtick is tired as frick.
Your point isn't hard to get. You hate Miles. He isn't here anymore. You don't have to continually bash the man.
Your point isn't hard to get. You hate Miles. He isn't here anymore. You don't have to continually bash the man.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 11:02 am to misey94
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The fact that he still holds onto this philosophy even AFTER being fired because of it speaks volumes. I don't miss him at all
I can understand why he held that philosophy. That was how the game used to be played.
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This is the biggest load of shot false narrative of the Les Miles incompetence apologist. Les Miles Jr High offense of playing your fastest dumb qb, and your biggest rub is all Les Miles has faculty to understand. AND NO ONE, was ever going to show his dumbass up. This is why he handcuffed his coaches, and made sure his qbs want smarter than him. This is why Danny Etling would have never seen the field had Les Miles still been here calling the shots. He hated playing Mett, and Metts 1st or as starter proved this. Miles made damn sure Mett didn't show up Jordan Jefferson. Metts improvement in his 2nd or is a load of shite. The Tigers offense improved by finally calling plays that suited a smarter, better passing qb. If Jefferson still had eligibility, Mett again would have never seen the field at LSU.
METT, should have started the day he showed up on campus, as should have Danny Etling.
The fact that he still holds onto this philosophy even AFTER being fired because of it speaks volumes. I don't miss him at all
I can understand why he held that philosophy. That was how the game used to be played.
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This is the biggest load of shot false narrative of the Les Miles incompetence apologist. Les Miles Jr High offense of playing your fastest dumb qb, and your biggest rub is all Les Miles has faculty to understand. AND NO ONE, was ever going to show his dumbass up. This is why he handcuffed his coaches, and made sure his qbs want smarter than him. This is why Danny Etling would have never seen the field had Les Miles still been here calling the shots. He hated playing Mett, and Metts 1st or as starter proved this. Miles made damn sure Mett didn't show up Jordan Jefferson. Metts improvement in his 2nd or is a load of shite. The Tigers offense improved by finally calling plays that suited a smarter, better passing qb. If Jefferson still had eligibility, Mett again would have never seen the field at LSU.
METT, should have started the day he showed up on campus, as should have Danny Etling.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 11:19 am to Flashtiger
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Les Miles doesn't have the faculty to understand football at higher levels than popwarner. Miles also was never going have anyone smarter than him running the show, and why he insisted on low IQ qbs he could impress at a BBQ. This is the reality. All coaches with real football smarts wanted no part of Les Miles, and the ONLY coaches worth a shite on his staff were grossly overpaid just to cover Les Miles' incompetent buffonery.
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