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Posted on 1/27/24 at 6:29 am to
Posted by Tiger Ike
SW Louisiana
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/27/24 at 6:29 am to
Looks like first scrimmage with shitty playing conditions where neither the pitchers nor hitters felt comfortable.
Posted by Lakefront-Tiger
Da Lakefront
Member since Nov 2004
6075 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 7:03 am to
Okay, this
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the mound condition as he came into the game after the weather delay. He slipped down pitching to the first batter he faced.


Makes me feel better about this
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Johnson 1.1IP 1H 4BB 4K


Even if you aren't slipping your plant foot, the thought of slipping your plant foot fricks up your control
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 1/27/24 at 7:44 am to
Cam with the 36+ BBA

But idc

:tigers:
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 7:48 am
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
19600 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 7:56 am to
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One inning in Jan, or 3 at bats is all it takes to shape these people's opinions for the entire season


This is very true and very unfortunate.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2619 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:54 am to
That is true. That’s how it is easy to tell the people who know a thing or 2 about baseball from the people who are just on here to form quick opinions on something that is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

That is also referring to Jones, not just Cam.
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 8:58 am
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2619 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:57 am to
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Well that just ab tells it all. Great stuff but can he command it.


That doesn’t tell anything. 1 outing in the first scrimmage of spring does not tell the story on what the kid can do. You can forget about what he did in fall if you want just so you can make a comment like that though.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289734 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:16 am to
Jones is a whipping boy on here. I don’t get it
Posted by YungBuck
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2017
3065 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:40 am to
It’s also the fact Bear is facing one of the best pitching staffs in the country. In his part of the PC yesterday he even said “iron sharpens iron”, he could go .225 these scrimmages and you still can’t take much from it until you see a good portion of the season.

I personally love him and hope the K% goes down a little and is not so much feast or famine, but shitting on him after the 1st scrimmage is stupid as hell and outs yourself.

Edit: Also excited to see DJ Primeaux, Guidry said his slider is maybe the best pitch on the staff and we will see him a lot
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 9:41 am
Posted by bradygolf98
Member since Jan 2021
3533 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:53 am to
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1st Jones 0-3 3K



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Johnson 4 bb.lolz.

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Big bad Jones picking up where he left off baby!

Our fans suck.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289734 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:56 am to
He’s going to strike out
He’s going to walk
He’s going to hit Nukes
He’s going to play a good 1B

They just need to deal with it
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
32319 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:56 am to
I hope we see the Kling we saw in non conference for about 3 weeks last year. He was the hottest hitter on the team at a point last year. He hit like 600 for 3 weeks iirc
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20542 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:59 am to
Several fans overstate their concerns. A more sober and measured response is that we have several players who need to take that next step - Kling, Jones, Neal, Guidry, etc - for us to repeat.

One of the more obvious ones is for Jones to cut down on Ks. I think his swing is pretty compact as is even though he's a big guy. Maybe it's patience? Mental? Dunno.



Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62220 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:04 am to
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That doesn’t tell anything.


I kinda disagree. I actually think it’s impressive to give up 5 baserunners in only 1.1 innings without giving up a run. Yeah, the 4 walks is not sustainable, but he clearly was able to harness his stuff when he had to and get Ks with guys on base (don’t know the sequence of his walks/hit/Ks, but my early Saturday morning math thinks he had to have at least 1 K with the bases loaded and another with 2 on—could have been more). That’s a huge weapon to have in the back of the pen when a guy can come in with runners on and get strikeouts when you have to have them.

Assuming he stays in the pen and the walks yesterday were an outlier, I think he pretty obviously becomes a multi-inning closer who can come in and clean up high leverage situations with guys on base in the 8th (and maybe even 7th) and then finish out the game. I don’t think you have to save him to start and close a clean 9th, and he’s too good/big/extended to only use as a high leverage LH specialist to get 1 or 2 outs. At least in the postseason. May not need him to go multiple innings too often in the regular season if the pen is as deep as it seems.

Tl:dr—5 baserunners in 1.1 is not great, but his ability to get Ks with guys on base is a much bigger positive than the baserunners are a negative imho.

Posted by Classy Doge
Member since Nov 2021
5164 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:32 am to
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I kinda disagree. I actually think it’s impressive to give up 5 baserunners in only 1.1 innings without giving up a run. Yeah, the 4 walks is not sustainable, but he clearly was able to harness his stuff when he had to and get Ks with guys on base (don’t know the sequence of his walks/hit/Ks, but my early Saturday morning math thinks he had to have at least 1 K with the bases loaded and another with 2 on—could have been more

I'm not calling out Scuba or saying that his stats are wrong but Cam did walk in a run with the bases loaded. In his 2nd inning of work he started off by giving up a hit to Travinski with a runner starting the inning on 1st. He threw a pitch in the dirt a couple feet in front of the plate that allowed the baserunner to advance to second. Then finally, two more walks before the inning was called. In a real game situation there would have been no run scored since the bases start empty but walking them loaded can be concerning.

I'm not worried about this outing at all but he struggled with a bunch of close pitches being called balls and several in the dirt. Could just be a product of pitch calling to work on his secondary pitches and a wet mound causing delivery issues.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19724 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:34 am to
This team to get where everyone wants them to go need Jones, Kling, and Neal to be everyday starters.
Posted by farad
Member since Dec 2013
12381 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:39 am to
Jump young man pitching today...ready to give him a look...
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20542 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:40 am to
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ScubaTiger


Thanks Scuba for the report as always. Helps make the Tiger world go 'round.

Question: did they play 5+ innings or did others pitch some that aren't shown. The innings pitched don't add up to 5+. Or is it just some quirk about how CJJ is formatting the scrimmages?
Posted by Classy Doge
Member since Nov 2021
5164 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:53 am to
It's really hard to keep score and calculate stats as normal due to the format that CJJ uses. That in addition to him calling innings and limiting pitch counts makes it real hard to make everything add up accurately IMO.

Kudos to Scuba's patience and willingness to compile this for the fans who can't make it out to the Box for the practice part of the season. TYFYS Scuba!
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
57271 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:57 am to
yeah just poorly worded by me i guess. helps to know ab the mound conditions and his fall performance. certainly not making any sweeping assessments based on 1 appearance
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 11:58 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134300 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:03 pm to
Scuba,
I'm having an amnesia moment.

What is the random number on the right hand side of some of the player's name?

For example, "RF Frey 0-2 K BB 3" What does the "3" mean?
And for Roelig, "2nd Roelig 0-1 8" What does the "8" mean?

I'm sure it's something simple but my brain isn't clicking this morning.

Thanks as always for your attendance at the scrimmages and for the box scores. Nobody does it better!
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