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Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by jgriffith
Paradise Valley, Arizona
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:52 pm to
Agree! I'm enjoying this big time!! I feel very blessed right now.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33961 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:52 pm to
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What was he the last three years?



That was clearly a doppleganger, completely different person that looked like Miles.

We should worry about what he did with the real Les Miles.
This post was edited on 2/17/19 at 10:53 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:53 pm to
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How insecure are you?


Im not the one trying to demean a better record over that span

Seems to me the insecurity is coming from the other side of the aisle.
This post was edited on 2/17/19 at 10:54 pm
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10465 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:53 pm to
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At least 16 starters from saban on team
And who coached em up? 2004 was underwhelming when Saban left, '05 improved somewhat, then '06 was almost good enough for NC, and finally removed from Saban far enough, '07 won it all.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33961 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:54 pm to
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Im not the one trying to demean a better record over that span

Seems to me the insecurity is coming from the other side of the aisle.




It's as if you didn't read the OP.

We wouldn't even be talking about this if it weren't for him.
This post was edited on 2/17/19 at 10:55 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:58 pm to
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It's as if you didn't read the OP.


My conversation started elsewhere.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17617 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:02 pm to
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Im not the one trying to demean a better record over that span

How exactly am I demeaning it? I'm just pointing out that some of the competition didn't live up to their preseason expectations.

Orgeron still gets credit for winning those games.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16679 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:07 pm to
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That was clearly a doppleganger, completely different person that looked like Miles.

We should worry about what he did with the real Les Miles.

Well you've got to admit the "riverboat gambler" did seem to take the last train to the coast.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:40 pm to
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I think we are gonna find out a lot about Coach O in 2019, earl. A bit disappointing in 2017, I think much better in 2018 with a good season and hopefully we see continued improvement in 2019.


2017 was disappointing. But last season was pretty good.

Here's to major improvements in 2019.
This post was edited on 2/17/19 at 11:41 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:55 pm to
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Coach 'O' inherited a team that was one step away from a dumpster fire.


He inherited a team that started top 5 in preseason polls.
He inherited a roster that has every single person that gets paid to evaluate talent says lsu is one of the top 7 most talented teams in cfb.

He inherited a roster that had the 2nd most nfl draft picks in his 1st year.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:57 pm to
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Don’t even try to compare the roster miles inherited to the one O inherited. Saban’s roster was loaded.



You bet. That 13 player, 14th ranked 2005 class that Saban left Miles was awesome.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17617 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:04 am to
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He inherited a team that started top 5 in preseason polls.
He inherited a roster that has every single person that gets paid to evaluate talent says lsu is one of the top 7 most talented teams in cfb.

He inherited a roster that had the 2nd most nfl draft picks in his 1st year.

But...but...Miles only recruited skill positions. The lines were neglected. DUMPSTER FIRE! TOTAL REBUILD!
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:05 am to
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Well, we weren't 106th in passing this year.


Yeah we just had our worst run game this century.

And lets not forget how we got those passing yards.....

We threw 13/17 TDS vs 4 teams. 

That’s 4 TD in 9 other games 

We thre 45% of our yards in 4 games


Stop acting like our passing game was anything but average.


Youre fine having a shite offense as long as we pass more.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:06 am to
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Maybe the guy shouldn't have started the conversation


I agree Roger. This is a stupid thread and Bayou Tiga shouldn't have started it.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:07 am to
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Saban’s roster was loaded


So loaded that Saban,Jimbo and Muschamp lost 3 games in 2004.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:08 am to
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least 16 starters from saban on team


Do you apply this logic to Saban's 2001 sec title too?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:11 am to
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But Orgeron has done markedly better over he same 35 game span than Miles.


Both averaging 3.5 losses a year and both had shite offenses.


Yeah the program is infinitely better
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:13 am to
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Mil s was a damn good coach the first three years


If you erased 2005-2011 His win% from 2012- the day he was fired is good enough for 3rd alltime at lsu.
This post was edited on 2/18/19 at 12:18 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:16 am to
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But...but...Miles only recruited skill positions. The lines were neglected. DUMPSTER FIRE! TOTAL REBUILD!


Right?

Miles left more nfl draft pick olinemen than Clemson has had since 2008.

O's 2017 team had 52 4 and 5 star players,had the 2nd most nfl draft picks,and had a total of 17 players drafted or signed as a free agent.


No one,and i mean no one, was calling lsu a rebuild until o's 1st 4 games of 2017. O publicly stated that the 2017 team was a playoff team.
This post was edited on 2/18/19 at 12:18 am
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 1:01 am to
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quote:
Absolutely no difference stat wise.


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Except passing yards...yeah...


2015 Offensive Stats:
Rushing Offense - Ranked #7 in the nation
Passing Offense - Ranked 106th in the nation
Total Offense - Ranked 39th in the nation
Scoring Offense - Ranked #43 in the nation

2018 Offense Stats:
Rushing Offense - Ranked #59 in the nation
Passing Offense - Ranked #67 in the nation
Total Offense - Ranked #69 in the nation
Scoring Offense - Ranked #38 in the nation which includes a 7 overtime game where the offense scored 41 points in overtime

Looks like a wash to me Roger.

2018 finishes the season ranked 39 spots ahead of the 2015 offense in passing.

2015 finishes the season ranked 52 spots ahead of the 2018 offense in rushing.

2015 finishes the season 30 spots ahead of 2018 in total offense.

Scoring offense is damn near identical, and that's with 2018 having a 7ot game to boost their numbers.

You traded a better passing game for a poorer rushing game.

Big deal.

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