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Posted on 1/28/18 at 7:23 pm to
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
30058 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 7:23 pm to
This guy is doesn’t make excuses and takes accountability. We unfortunately don’t get that from other head coaches.
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My favorite quote:
“Bruce Pearl kicked my butt, so we all got drilled,” Wade said
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31076 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 8:02 pm to
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SEC Tournament involving Brown's pushing of a player from U of Tennessee named Carlos Graves...
His name was Carlus Groves and he should of had his face pushed in.
Posted by AndrewD
Member since Oct 2013
731 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:56 pm to
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Wade is and will be the best we have ever had at LSU.


We're 3-5 in the SEC.

Say what you want about Coach Brown - he recruited a Hall of Famer who stayed for 3 years and got his degree. Not to mention became the third richest basketball player of all time. As a former college player myself, Xs and Os aren't worth that much.

Recruiting five star players in 2018 isn't the same deal. 4-5 month contracts.
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 12:10 am
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 7:00 am to
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We're 3-5 in the SEC.


In his first year after hitting rock bottom just a year ago, you damn window licker
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
53850 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 7:02 am to
I'm a doubter...about Dale. If this guy isn't a better coach than Dale Brown I'll crawl back into my basketball cave.

Les Miles gets a lot of shite about wasting talent, and deservedly, but he doesn't hold a candle to Dale Brown. Brown could not do anything special with second year Stanley Roberts, first year Shaq, and a veteran Chris Jackson.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
4547 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 9:08 am to
Tuba, is that you????
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
4547 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 9:13 am to
Penrod, they didn't lose to chopped liver in the 1990 tourney. Lethal weapon 3 took them out. 2 b nba players in d. scott and k. anderson, and a solid c nba player in d. ferrell. Also cremins is a top 40 coach of all time too. I will agree however, that LSU was more dangerous under dale with good talent as opposed to great.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
26004 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 10:02 am to
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He is the only SEC coach to have ever appeared in 15 straight national tournaments and only 11 coaches in NCAA history have made more consecutive NCAA appearances (10). Only the legendary Adolph Rupp of Kentucky has won more games in SEC history. Brown and Rupp are the only SEC coaches that had 17 consecutive non-losing seasons.

It's the go-to for the most ignorant of fans: "I watch that there team on the TV and dat coach don't know his X's & O's!"

Those same ignorant fans apply this to Dale (Most accomplished coach in LSU history), Brady (pull the program out of NCAA sanctions to the final four), and Miles (most accomplished coach in LSU history).

They will say the same about Wade, evnetually, most likely after a long and successful career.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
13135 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 10:11 am to
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Dale was a great motivator, but he couldn't coach Xs and Os for shite.


Sounds like someone else we know
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25817 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 10:34 am to
It is way too early to annoint Wade as the best or worst coach since Coach Brown. He may be a great coach, but we won't know until next year at the earliest.
Posted by CL8100
Bayou
Member since Jan 2012
948 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:50 am to
I disagree, well if wade is good. Why isn't he winning alot of games? If Dale was good why didn't he go to final four often, and consistanly be in top 15 thru out the year, year in and year out. I certainly don't see any championships for lsu basketball but you say they are good. Good is no where to be found with Lsu hoops so far as of yet. Maybe a late surge in the season, maybe will be different next season but it hasn't happen yet. Dale was a good recruiter for Lsu. He sucked arse for an basketball coach. With the talent he recruited, should have won championships
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25817 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 1:29 pm to
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I disagree, well if wade is good. Why isn't he winning alot of games?


I don't agree with this. While I believe that we won't know whether Wade is good until he starts winning a lot of games, that fact that he is not currently winning games doesn't prove he is a bad coach. It is an open question at this point.

My objection is to all the hype about how great he is. I would love it if he became the coach some of you think he is.
Posted by Gonadballbarian
Member since Dec 2017
1636 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 2:10 pm to
he had the twin pyramids, cj, v singleton, g. griggs etc etc and cdnt get a ring
Posted by Gonadballbarian
Member since Dec 2017
1636 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:25 pm to
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Penrod, they didn't lose to chopped liver in the 1990 tourney. Lethal weapon 3 took them out. 2 b nba players in d. scott and k. anderson, and a solid c nba player in d. ferrell. Also cremins is a top 40 coach of all time too. I will agree however, that LSU was more dangerous under dale with good talent as opposed to great.


dont forget brian oliver...also cj had the flu that game--held to 13 points i think.. but we were up something like 25 to 3 to start the game
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 3:26 pm
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 6:22 pm to
I saw Dale pull out the miraculous but also watched him choke himself.

If a coach is only as good as X's and O's, then there a ton of bad coaches. The trite "was a motivator" and a "recruiter", but "could not draw up plays." The 86 team overshadows the 87 squad and rightly so -- a final 4. BUT that team was ranked as high as #9 in the AP and started the season 13-0 before chicken pox hit them, as well as losing Nikita Wilson to grades. With Nikita instead of Blanton, they would have been even heavier favorites (taking nothing away from Ricky...he was a stud that March and April). Dale's '87 team was at one point 1-5 in the SRC before bombarding UK at Rupp. Still, what they did in the Sec tourney was just as impressive as the NCAA and they should be added together for effect. Over a course of about 18 days, LSU would:

-effortlessly handle State in the SEC Thursday opening round
-defeat #2 SEC foe, Florida, with Maxwell and Moten and co. -- a team that handled them easily weeks before -- twice.
-- nearly blow a 25 point lead in the Omni vs. Georgia, but stood tall to knock off UGA in 2OT.
-- give Bama all they wanted in the SEC finals -- a Bama team that was a 2 seed in the NCAAt.

--Beat a slightly more talented team in 1st round against GT (their 2nd win that season vs. GT).
-- Shut down the pick and roll game of John Chaney's Temple Owls.
-- Beat, in the regional semis in CINCINNATI, the DePaul Blue Demons with Rod Strickland, Kevin Edwards, and Dallas Comegys. The "Wilsons" got it done.
-- Were a better second and shot away from Nikita sending LSU to the Final 4 vs. a MUCH better Indiana team. We win that game? Imagine LSU in a Final 4 in New Orleans. UNLV nor Syracuse would have stood a chance. That team would have surpassed Villanova, 2 years prior, as the most improbable champion of all time.

LSU did all of that as a 15 loss team and one who had lost to UNO. They basically played 7 guys and 3 of them couldn't shoot to save their lives (and no Ricky Blanton or Zoran). They played D; they had an attitude; they were close as brothers. Dale HAS to be considered a great coach for that reason.

And then...fast forward to 1990. The early loss to Kansas should have been a clue that we were way out of our element with one junior on the whole team. But then, at one point, they were 18-4 and had beaten UNLV and drilled Texas and Notre Dame. They finished 2nd behind UGA. They were ousted in the SEC Tourney by a horrific Auburn squad. They couldn't hold a 22-5 first-half lead against GT. They had THREE Lottery picks -- the same as UNLV, who would win the whole thing. We beat them and we can't do better than a 5 seed who loses in round 2?

I get it...two sides to Dale. He could win 20 games with 5 starving ghetto kids from Eurasia, but he couldn't win when he had five 5-stars from Brooklyn to L.A.

Will Wade? You know what's really gonna suck? Alleeva will still be here in 4-5 years and some blue-blood will beckon for a 40-year-old and offer him 2.5 million dollars. And we won't pay it, but Ed Orgeron will still likely be on campus, witha new deal after his 10-3 remarkable season.
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
21114 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 8:38 pm to
I love Wade but tap the brakes...Dale beat Kentucky 18 times, most ever. Two Final Fours, 10 straight NCAA trips. Dale is LSU basketball.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57554 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:59 am to
Nope. Tex winter
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