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re: Correcting some important information in the Will Wade situation
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:21 pm to KG5989
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:21 pm to KG5989
quote:
So he has the right to not talk to them and plead the 5th during the entire meeting, but he still should have met with them to plead the 5th to every question? And if that’s what Wade would have done, he wouldn’t be suspended today?
No. He has the right, without adverse consequences, to plead the 5th under oath on the witness stand.
In a meeting with his employer no such right exists. He either talks to them or not. If he does not, he has to accept the consequences of his actions.
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Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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True. However it's the duty of the officers to protect LSU, not any HC.
Then they are doing a poor job of protecting LSU.
If NCAA violations occurred what's done is done.
Wade will be fired and won't coach in college for a long time.
LSU will get slammed.
There is NOTHING we can do to ameliorate the situation at the Friday March 6th status level. The best that could be done is stabilize the situation from March 6th to the end of the federal trial.
However, LSU admin as exacerbated the issue unnecessarily beginning March 6th.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Maybe. But it's the right way to handle it. What would you do?
I would have done exactly what auburn has done with Pearl. We will meet officially and with the ncaa at the conclusion of the trial at which time we will be able to obtain all facts.
If they suspend him state we will suspend him and the no leaks absolutely none. State we support him continue to pay him and want him to focus on the trial and clearing his name.
Still waiting on your response to this roger. That literally took me two seconds and I don’t not have a degree in pr marketing nor law but I’ve covered both scenarios and managed to maintain a relationship with the best basketball coach we’ve had in twenty years+not implicate our own guilt unlike how our administration
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:27 pm to Tammany Tom
quote:
Got it????
They won't get it, unfortunately.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:27 pm to Philippines4LSU
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My bad Ben.
I deleted the post you replied to because I was wrong to quote a post with your name in it and reply with my response.
While I'm not entirely disowning the comment, your name should not have been mentioned in conjunction with it and I apologize for that.
It wasn't meant as an attack on you personally.
It was poor judgment to post that comment alongside that quote
That's ok. I've only just today let my feelings on everything be known. I haven't felt knowledgeable enough to post anything. I've let my thoughts on FKing and company be known today. I think that they were prepared to throw WW under the bus had he attended that meeting. I think the NCAA should never have been invited. I do think that FKing and Alleva are doing what they think is best for either themselves or LSU unfortunately they aren't capable of coming to the correct decision because they lack those leadership skills.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:29 pm to TigerLunatik
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There really was no contradicttion. The tweet said he has the right to plead the 5th in criminal proceeding.
Fair enough.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:31 pm to bencoleman
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FKing and Alleva are doing what they think is best for either themselves
/thread
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:31 pm to Tammany Tom
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The Administration should NEVER, EVER, EVER called a meeting with Wade in the first place. No meeting should ever have been asked for until AFTER the trial. Got it????
NO, I DON'T. AND I DON'T THINK YOU DO EITHER. Can we dispense with the caps now?
LSU's issue is not the trial. Their issue is with NCAA sanctions and the fact that Wade may have lied to them last year. They also may have been trying to clear both Smart and Wade with the hope of avoiding sanctions and having both available for the tournament. Interesting that the one that did answer questions is back with the team.
Wade's decision not to answer questions likely portends more news coming out, news LSU may well have been aware of. It may also indicate that Wade knows that more revelations are coming that LSU would not like and is not aware of. The only reason for Wade not to answer questions in light of the upcoming trial --- in which is not a defendant nor under investigation (at least so far as reports indicate) --- is that he knows that the worst is not over. Otherwise, he would be aggressively trying to clear his name, which he most certainly is not doing.
Crystal clear?
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:31 pm to GumboPot
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Then they are doing a poor job of protecting LSU.
If NCAA violations occurred what's done is done.
It would seem to benefit LSU to put someone on administrative leave who, according to all appearances, mentioned possible violations and keep it from happening again.
Wouldn't you agree that if further violations happened if he wasn't suspended the situation could get much worse?
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:31 pm to Lester Earl
You’re a strange dude Lester, I don’t understand why you even keep up with anything LSU related since it’s clear you hate all of it
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:31 pm to GumboPot
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There is NOTHING we can do to ameliorate the situation at the Friday March 6th status level. The best that could be done is stabilize the situation from March 6th to the end of the federal trial.
I'm interested in your opinion on if Wade was allowed to coach after the 2nd report came out, then 3 or 4 more came out with Wade on them and it ended up to be true. As you correctly said, what's done is done. Do you think the sanctions would be worse if he was coaching when those other reports came out vs him being suspended?
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:32 pm to bencoleman
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bencoleman
Good to see you, my friend. Haven't seen you post lately. Hope all is well.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:36 pm to Lester Earl
They don’t need to refute terrible beat writers. Lol.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:40 pm to TigerLunatik
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bencoleman
Good to see you, my friend. Haven't seen you post lately. Hope all is well
Thank you. It's good to see you too. Things have been difficult but I'm still fighting. Still trying to get on my feet. I'm almost there. I hope that you're well.
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:45 pm to Lester Earl
quote:who has been claiming this? Nice strawman. The issue was who LSU, not Wade, wanted to bring into the meeting.
LSU would not let Will Wade's lawyer be present at a meeting
quote:Lol... Serious strawman here by LSU and a begged question from GG. Absolutely *no one* has claimed it would be illegal. But it'd be pretty stupid from a legal counsel perspective.
Will Wade cannot talk to LSU because of upcoming federal trial: ..."LSU attorney: 'It is not unlawful or illegal for Wade to talk to us at all.'"
quote:So, the meeting was to happen the morning of March 8. This is a quote from LSU on March 14. Did the NCAA request this prior to March 8? I still think LSU (BOS Chairman) required this for the March 8 meeting.
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:51 pm to clamdip
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LSU would not let Will Wade's lawyer be present at a meeting
who has been claiming this?
I believe Jordy Culotta reported this on his radio show either on Tuesday or Wednesday, but it's been repeated here a lot. I'm assuming that's why they decided to tweet about it as a rebuttal.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:54 pm to geauxtigers810
quote:People actually upvoted this
What right does the NCAA have to be in all meetings with an employee?
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:55 pm to Lester Earl
Lester, you are 100% correct.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:57 pm to Macavity92
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LSU's issue is not the trial. Their issue is with NCAA sanctions and the fact that Wade may have lied to them last year.
Who gives a frick about sanctions? Seriously!
LSU is about to have the best seeding in the NCAA tournament that they've gotten in well over 25 years. They just won a SEC Championship. This year's team had, let me emphasize HAD, an opportunity to go to the Final Four this year. You capitalize on that THIS year.
This program was a total and complete dumpster fire of epic proportions just 2 years ago.
Give LSU all the sanctions you want and it ain't gonna be much worse than that, if any. LOL!!
Wade is the best coach this program has ever had and will ever have. You support him as long as you can, Sanctions be damned. If you support him 100%, have his back, and nothing can be proven by the NCAA that any improprieties were made, then you have your coach that will be a major winner here for a long, long time.
IF the NCAA can prove that improprieties were made, then this year's title is vacated. Big fricking deal. We have to fire Wade, and sanctions bring us back to 4-14 SEC records.
All LSU has done is bring a bigger and worse media spotlight to LSU. Cause major problems with this year's team, making it much, much harder to win in post season and will lose this coach no matter what transpires. LSU is left with a shitty program and a shitty new coach that can't recruit top flight players for the life of him.
All for forcing a meeting that never had to happen.
Crystal Clear?????????
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 3/16/19 at 4:00 pm to xiv
quote:
People actually upvoted this
Because it’s a terrible move by LSU. For two reasons...
1. Recent history says that playing nice with the NCAA gets you in more trouble than playing hardball.
2. This would have been LSU’s first meeting with Wade following the second wiretap from Forde. Why on earth would you let the NCAA in on that before meeting internally to make sure everyone is on the same page?
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