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Posted on 7/12/21 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by LSU9102
West of the Mississippi
Member since Mar 2007
2522 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 4:20 pm to
Georgia Tech
94
Tigers 91

CJ shooting 33% didn’t help playing Dennis Scott and Kenny Anderson
Not enough defense against another loaded team.

Part of the reason college ball isn’t as good as it once was with 3 year players on teams every where across the nation.
NBA ruined it and NBA sucks anyway without any defense as well.
Posted by Bomont
Member since May 2021
975 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 4:23 pm to
Carlos Groves POS... I remember watching that game in high school at PE class.
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
1410 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 4:33 pm to
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good point, Shaq got better over time but people on here overrate his skills as a collegiate based on what he accomplished as a pro


two time all american, two time sec player of the year, number 1 pick in the draft
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
30116 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 4:33 pm to
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Man, wish Id been at LSU back in the day to see Shaq. That would have been epic

You still wouldn’t have seen anything with that group. They were really underperformed as a group. If you would have seen Pistol or 79-1987 teams, then you could have gotten a glimpse of why the Assembly Center was named the Deaf Dome.
The 79-80 team would have whipped every LSU team including those that went to the final 4 with Scales and Rudy playing. Instead we got our asses handed to us by Magic Johnson in his run to the title with Michigan State. They do not beat us with Scales and Rudy. No way on earth that happens.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4982 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 4:35 pm to
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Shaq got better over time


Yes he did.

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people on here overrate his skills as a collegiate based on what he accomplished as a pro


Only partly true. Shaq had almost no offense in college save for a dunk; however, he was an almost unstoppable beast defensively and on the boards. Combine that with the fact that he could virtually dunk at will and I don’t think you can overestimate his talent or production.

All of that being said, I found Stanley more fun to watch bc he was more polished offensively (although ultimately not on Shaq’s level).

ETA: Shaq’s ball handling, vision and passing ability was crazy good for a 7 footer (let alone a freshman 7 footer)
This post was edited on 7/12/21 at 4:38 pm
Posted by allincontext
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
287 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 5:47 pm to
12-18, 12-12 for 36, damn impressive

...found the box score.

NCAA Boxes Saturday In The West Regional INDIANA 89, LSU 79 LSU (21-10) Singleton 7-10 0-1 14, Ceasar 5-10 0-0 12, O'Neal 12-18 12-12 36, Williamson 4-9 0-0 11, Brandon 0-6 0-0 0, Hammink 0-1 0-0 0, Pugh 0-2 0-0 0, Marshall 0-1 0-0 0, J.Anderson 1-4 0-0 3, Boudreaux 1-3 0-0 3, Hansen 0-2 0-0 0, Picou 0-0 0-0 0, Mascia 0-0 0-0 0. Totals 30-68 12-13 79. INDIANA (25-6) Cheaney 10-18 9-9 30, Henderson 814 3-3 19, Nover 6-11 1-2 13, Reynolds 0-0 0-0 0, Bailey 2-5 3-4 9, G.Graham 0-1 2-2 2, E.Anderson 3-3 4-412, Meeks 1-31-2 4. Totais 30-55 23-26 89. Halftime—Indiana 45, LSU 38. 3- Point goals—LSU 7-23 (Williamson 3-5, Ceasar 2-6, Boudreaux 1-1, J.Anderson 1-3, Marshall 0-1, Pugh 0-2, Hansen 0-2, Brandon 0-3), Indiana 6-14 (E.Anderson 2-2, Bailey 24, Meeks 1-2, Cheaney 1-5, G.Graham 0-1). Fouled out—Singleton, Ceasar, Williamson, E.Anderson. Re-bounds-LSU 32 (O'Neal 12), Indiana 32 (Cheaney 8). Assists—LSU 22 (Williamson 6), Indiana 18 (Meeks 8). Total fouls—LSU 22, Indiana 15. A—12,208.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4982 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 6:51 pm to
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. If you would have seen Pistol or 79-1987 teams, then you could have gotten a glimpse of why the Assembly Center was named the Deaf Dome


I was there 84-88 and I agree with you (except for the Pistol part…he never played in the Assembly Center). Regardless, That place was crazy.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
30116 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 8:41 pm to
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he never played in the Assembly Center)

Well, I guess so. Freaking old age. I sort of forgotten we played in Parker when I was in school. Don’t get old! Stay young!

Here is an interesting fact:
When mike was in that small cage while they were building the Assembly Center, the construction workers used to poke at him. I heard one guy kept doing it with rebar they used to set the foundation for the AC. He would sneak through the tall grass and poke him. Mike caught on to it and would growl at him before he ever got close enough. Smelled him.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
28822 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 9:34 pm to
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Shaq threw his elbow


Back when they let them play

I was at a game at La Tech when Malone broke some dude's face, you could hear the pop all through the gym.

Posted by js1591
Member since Jan 2020
2915 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 10:55 pm to
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I love Dale and he is the best bball coach LSU ever had but he screwed that team up.


Yes he did… he made a lot of mistakes.
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
2586 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 11:04 pm to
It was amazing watching him play. He just dominated the court. I remember watching that moment live in the video vividly.

His Junior year (in the video) is when all teams went to the Hack a Shaq game plan. Whenever Shaq was in a position to make an easy layup, shot, or slam, they would hard foul him. Because his free throws were awful, they wanted LSU to beat them at the foul line. It pissed of Shaq and LSU fans immensely.

That video of Shaq getting pulled down was the last straw, and he had enough. This was his 3rd to last game in an LSU uniform. To this day I think Dale Brown charged the court and player because he knew he lost Shaq to the NBA at that moment. Shaq was tired of the cheap fouls, and let it all out in that video.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
15261 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 1:08 am to
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baw could only take so much hack-a-Shaq
Carlos Groves. Anybody have some old footage of it and Dale running out on the court going after Groves?
Posted by crowbar832001
Member since Dec 2008
3666 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 4:44 am to
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but people on here overrate his skills as a collegiate based on what he accomplished as a pro


Wtf. His freshman year he was still trying to find himself. His soph and junior years he was all that and then some avg. around 26 ppg, 5 blocks, and 14 rebs plus breaking rims in my lifetime he was and still is the most dominant college player I have ever seen.
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
2586 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 7:02 am to
Watch this video. This game introduced him to the world as the best collegiate player at the time. With Chris Jackson gone to the NBA, this was now his team, but was shoved in the role earlier than normal. He destroyed the court.

This video is basically the cliffs notes on how he played every game against opponents. They had no answer until Hack a Shaq.

quote:

LINK
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12169 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:35 am to
I camped out on the ramp at the PMAC for those games back in the day. My memory of Shaq's game back then has faded but I do know he was the most exciting player to watch. Only Zion has been as interesting as a player in college since then (to me).
Posted by coachbleu
Montgomery, TX
Member since Jun 2010
157 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 10:59 am to
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You still wouldn’t have seen anything with that group.


Well, that season (1989-1990) I watched them beat Loyola Marymount, 148-141 in OT. I also watched that team beat the eventual national champs, UNLV, 107-105. Those two games were the most fun I've ever had at ANY basketball games in my life.

I think that you should amend your statement. We all know that they underachieved and that Dale Brown made tremendous coaching blunders, but there was PLENTY to see.
Posted by Geaux Guy
Member since Dec 2018
6749 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:16 am to
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Shaq loved to dramatically swat shots up into the seats until someone finally taught him it’s better to block them with a little less force so LSU could get possession of the ball.
Dude was so much fun to watch.




Us being such a non-basketball school thought is was great when he did that.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18297 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:16 pm to
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LSU 79 LSU (21-10) Singleton 7-10 0-1 14, Ceasar 5-10 0-0 12, O'Neal 12-18 12-12 36, Williamson 4-9 0-0 11, Brandon 0-6 0-0 0, Hammink 0-1 0-0 0, Pugh 0-2 0-0 0, Marshall 0-1 0-0 0, J.Anderson 1-4 0-0 3, Boudreaux 1-3 0-0 3, Hansen 0-2 0-0 0, Picou 0-0 0-0 0, Mascia 0-0 0-0 0. Totals 30-68 12-13 79


Looks like Jamie Brandon didn't show up. May have made a difference. he was a very highly regarded recruit out of Chicago.
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