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re: ESPN Calling out Fournette
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:23 pm to skullopener
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:23 pm to skullopener
What Fournette did was premature, lacking in humility, uncalled for, and a big "look at me". I'd bet my house Fournette knew this before he struck the pose too. In my opinion, this was calculated.
However, sometimes you have to be a little controversial and unprofessional to get your point across. After last week's negativity (mostly from this fan base) about him looking slow or not hitting the hole right, Fournette gave you something to really talk about and criticize him for. Athletes use all sorts of motivation to drive excellence. I see a guy that is using criticism as being "over-hyped" as motivation to prove them wrong. He is calling his shot.
I see a guy that is extremely confident in his own abilities to the point of striking a heisman pose on TV. If you can't see how talented he is, you are blind. He is the real deal, the complete package.
If this one pose defines his character in your eyes (i.e., one football celebration), then you are foolish and immature. I didn't like the pose, but I understand why he did it. Sometimes you have to call your shot...
However, sometimes you have to be a little controversial and unprofessional to get your point across. After last week's negativity (mostly from this fan base) about him looking slow or not hitting the hole right, Fournette gave you something to really talk about and criticize him for. Athletes use all sorts of motivation to drive excellence. I see a guy that is using criticism as being "over-hyped" as motivation to prove them wrong. He is calling his shot.
I see a guy that is extremely confident in his own abilities to the point of striking a heisman pose on TV. If you can't see how talented he is, you are blind. He is the real deal, the complete package.
If this one pose defines his character in your eyes (i.e., one football celebration), then you are foolish and immature. I didn't like the pose, but I understand why he did it. Sometimes you have to call your shot...
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:24 pm to skullopener
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the only thing dumber than him doing it is over-reacting to it
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:36 pm to PacWilly
Definitely calculated. You don't just get "excited" and do something. You have to think about it first. Hopefully it is out of his system and he can focus on the team and not himself so much.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:50 pm to The Pirate King
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Again, the kid brought this upon himself. He has played into the hype and set ridiculous expectations for himself on record. He's dangerously teetering on the line between confident and cocky.
Good, bc I don't want a weak minded football team. Believe in yourself and you will do great things.
Did PP7 catch as much of this flack as LF7 after his pose?
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:59 pm to King Joey
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he seemed to get run down fairly consistently when he did break into the open.
Run down? On what runs did he get 'run down'???
Ask 13 on the 4th quarter run how fast he is
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:02 pm to igoringa
I cannot believe this is getting this much attention.
Stupid decision in the end zone by an 18 year old. Corrected instantly by the coach and the world kept spinning.
Cant we focus on more important things like fraternity signs?
Stupid decision in the end zone by an 18 year old. Corrected instantly by the coach and the world kept spinning.
Cant we focus on more important things like fraternity signs?
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:08 pm to Datbayoubengal
quote:This is the point; he had run for a 4 yard TD in the first quarter of our second game against an FCS opponent we were already beating 13-0. That's not something "big". A simple high five and hip bump with his teammates would have been more than adequate celebration for his feat.
When you do something big on the field
As for it being his first college TD, well, let's put it this way: hundreds of people have scored their first college touchdown for LSU; not one of them felt it was "big" enough to warrant a Heisman pose.
What amuses me is that by far the majority of people still talking about this are the ones complaining about people still talking about it.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:13 pm to King Joey
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What amuses me is that by far the majority of people still talking about this are the ones complaining about people still talking about it.
that has nothing to do with the fact that ESPN is preaching on it and local talk radio?
Pointing out the ridiculousness of major media outlets harping on it is sort of the point. C'mon man.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:20 pm to BigSquirrel
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Well a couple years into my rec league hockey career, I score my first hat trick. Now I had celebrated goals before, but this was a little different. I instantly had to come up with a celebration to beat all celebrations, because I had never had one, and might well never get one again. So I did what any respectable rec league hockey player would do. I spiked both of my gloves onto the goalie, one at a time. Then I put my stick between my legs, and galloped around their offensive zone as if riding a horse into the sunset. Then I took said horse, and threw it like a harpoon down the length of the rink towards my own goal and skated off without a care in the world.
So, being about his age when this incident occurred, I say good job LF, good job. If you get hit by a car and die this week, at least you partied like it was your last TD ever.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:22 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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Character
Striking the Heisman pose is not an example of poor character. Granted there have been cases of such at LSU, but it happens at every program, and the coaches have dealt with it.
LF's celebration is not poor character.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:22 pm to igoringa
quote:The long run right before his TD.
On what runs did he get 'run down'???
quote:You mean the guy he juked and ran by, who then turned around and ran him down and grabbed his ankles at about the 4? When I see a RB put a move on a guy and blow by him, and then that same guy catches back up in the play, that doesn't suggest elite top end speed. And I'm not saying you have to have elite top end speed to be an awesome back -- many of the greatest running backs of all time haven't had elite top end speed -- I just thought I had heard that was one of the elements of Fournette's game, that once he got behind people he was for sure going house. I might have heard wrong.
Ask 13 on the 4th quarter run how fast he is
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:25 pm to igoringa
quote:I imagine that has everything to do with it . . . which is exactly why ESPN and local talk radio are still talking about it. The fact they have so many willing thralls (especially on message boards like this) is what amuses me.
that has nothing to do with the fact that ESPN is preaching on it and local talk radio?
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:28 pm to PacWilly
quote:If this is the worst thing he does during his time at LSU...I'll take it.
If this one pose defines his character in your eyes (i.e., one football celebration), then you are foolish and immature. I didn't like the pose, but I understand why he did it. Sometimes you have to call your shot...
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:55 pm to King Joey
1st q run- he was never closer to the goal line than the 2 guys that made contact with him..... And he ran back into the first guy before flicking him off and the second guy he dragged was always several yards downfield from him. Not sure how that is 'ran down'.
4th q run - when LF was at 21 the guy was on 20, they were even and 15, and the guy whiffed diving forward at 4 (ie LF was pulling away).
Again not saying he is Usain Bolt out there but on neither of those did he get 'ran down'.
4th q run - when LF was at 21 the guy was on 20, they were even and 15, and the guy whiffed diving forward at 4 (ie LF was pulling away).
Again not saying he is Usain Bolt out there but on neither of those did he get 'ran down'.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:56 pm to igoringa
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ESPN Calling out Fournette 1st q run- he was never closer to the goal line than the 2 guys that made contact with him..... And he ran back into the first guy before flicking him off and the second guy he dragged was always several yards downfield from him. Not sure how that is 'ran down'. 4th q run - when LF was at 21 the guy was on 20, they were even and 15, and the guy whiffed diving forward at 4 (ie LF was pulling away). Again not saying he is Usain Bolt out there but on neither of those did he get 'ran down'.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:57 pm to King Joey
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That's the only thing that worries me in the least about this. I don't know what to make of a star RB who's been dreaming of a 4 yard TD run against Sam Houston State since he was 15.
There are some true morons that post on this board.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:57 pm to skullopener
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He struck a Heisman pose after his first career TD
Dear God no...not a Heisman pose!!
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:03 pm to skullopener
Yeah, I hope the media and everyone keeps concentrating on him while Dural, Quinn, Diarse, and Dupre wreak havoc on the football world.
I agree with it being calculated. Now he has all the motivation in the world to really give these media types something to talk about if they'll rag on him for a Heisman pose.
I agree with it being calculated. Now he has all the motivation in the world to really give these media types something to talk about if they'll rag on him for a Heisman pose.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:11 pm to BEATbama05
"Did PP7 catch as much of this flack as LF7 after his pose?"
He was actually talked about being a Heisman contender by many media outlets. Only LSU fans currently mention LF and Heisman in the same sentence.
He was actually talked about being a Heisman contender by many media outlets. Only LSU fans currently mention LF and Heisman in the same sentence.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:12 pm to igoringa
quote:Okay, from the stands (albeit waaaay up in the upper deck), it looked like he was. I remember a moment of, "He's gone!" when he broke into the open.
1st q run- he was never closer to the goal line than the 2 guys that made contact with him
quote:When LF was at the 26 running forward, the guy was frozen on the 25. He turned his hips and started running for the endzone and at the 5 he was close enough to grab his ankles.
4th q run - when LF was at 21 the guy was on 20, they were even and 15, and the guy whiffed diving forward at 4 (ie LF was pulling away).
Like I said, I may have misunderstood the reports on him, but I've seen more than a couple of backs at LSU that would have beaten those guys to the endzone (Kevin Faulk, Dominick Davis, etc.) and I thought he was supposed to have that kind of speed. But if he's gonna be more Dalton Hilliard than Devery Henderson, that's definitely fine with me.
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