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re: Fisher's team quit on him, Orgeron's team hasn't
Posted on 10/28/17 at 7:38 am to TrueTigerTale
Posted on 10/28/17 at 7:38 am to TrueTigerTale
I will say this...
Maybe not the team, but way too many players quit in the MSU game. It was very noticeable. It was disgusting. THAT should've been the shock to the system, not the Troy loss. Frankly, in my own little mind, I will always hold that against Orgeron.
He appears to have fended it off and not let it spread or get worse. There was no quit in the Troy game, just a lot of fricktardedness. So I have 'forgiveness' for Orgeron, not 'forgetfulness'.
And I will say this, it was so disgusting and so un-LSU like that if it ever happens again fire him on the spot.
He's turned at least that around enough where it shouldn't happen again. But the moral of that little rant is that it is hard to prevent, harder to stop once it happens. Jimbo (and Beliema) have dug some really deep holes. I thank the lucky stars we didn't dig the same hole. It easily could've happened.
Maybe not the team, but way too many players quit in the MSU game. It was very noticeable. It was disgusting. THAT should've been the shock to the system, not the Troy loss. Frankly, in my own little mind, I will always hold that against Orgeron.
He appears to have fended it off and not let it spread or get worse. There was no quit in the Troy game, just a lot of fricktardedness. So I have 'forgiveness' for Orgeron, not 'forgetfulness'.
And I will say this, it was so disgusting and so un-LSU like that if it ever happens again fire him on the spot.
He's turned at least that around enough where it shouldn't happen again. But the moral of that little rant is that it is hard to prevent, harder to stop once it happens. Jimbo (and Beliema) have dug some really deep holes. I thank the lucky stars we didn't dig the same hole. It easily could've happened.
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 7:42 am to LSU GrandDad
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that guy has only had one great year in his whole career
That other guy, Jimbo, has 2 NC rings one as a OC for LSU and one as HC. 3 conference titles and 4 div. titles. From 2012-2016 Fla. St. won 59 games and had 4 Top 10 teams.
None of that excuses what his team is doing this yr., but his resume as a HC/OC farrrrr out distances Coach O/DL that's not even in the same zip code.
Has nothing to do with "hate". Just with having the ability to be objective.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 7:42 am to Tigerbait357
He as the head coach may never recover from this at Fla State. People make excuses that he lost his starting QB, but Francois was not that good. He is better than Blackman, but Fla State's problems go deeper than that. Jimbo has a bunch of primadonna's on that team. They have quit on him. They got embarrassed by 4-4 BC and may lose to Syracuse, will certainly lose to Clemson. If they're lucky, they'll win 3 of their last 4 and finish at 5 - 6 (ULM GAME CANCELLED DUE TO WEATHER).
Don't feel too bad for Jimbo, his $40,000,000 buyout means he won't be hurting financially EVER!
Don't feel too bad for Jimbo, his $40,000,000 buyout means he won't be hurting financially EVER!
This post was edited on 10/28/17 at 7:43 am
Posted on 10/28/17 at 7:47 am to LSU GrandDad
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LSU GrandDad
You should see a doctor about your senility.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 7:48 am to Tigerbait357
Fsu played in a weak conference for years. The conference is getting better and Jimbo is getting worse, despite more talent than the other conference teams. They lost by 43 points last year and were preseason #3 THIS year. He won a championship with crab legs. Chiz won one too with cam...
The Jimbo resume crap is over used. Most of you o haters just have an agenda. O is performing better than Jimbo this year, and that is a fact.
The Jimbo resume crap is over used. Most of you o haters just have an agenda. O is performing better than Jimbo this year, and that is a fact.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 7:51 am to Mo Jeaux
I know this guy, he is a good guy. From reading your posts over the last several months on here, you aren't. You come across as an arrogant douche most of the time, and your o agenda is getting blown up. Maybe you are really a good guy, and just trolling on here, I hope that is the case.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 7:55 am to rosiebean
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Orgeron’s team quit halfway through its first away game against an SEC opponent this year, something I have not seen LSU do since the mid-90s
Apparently you haven't watched much football either. Your post is full of fail.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 7:56 am to jeff70121
Does he really have a $40m buyout? Holy shite. He parleyed crab legs into all of this...and playing in a weaker conference with by far more talent..up until the last couple years. The people that lobby for Jimbo amaze me. He is better than curly and chiz, who lucked out with favre and cam....but he is far overrated.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:00 am to TheHat7
Fisher won a championship coming out of a weak conference (that year) with crab legs. They also we're fortunate to get a very lucky auburn team in the championship. A team Lsu whipped and lucked out over a couple of other sec teams.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:01 am to Concordiatiger1
Here are the top 4 at present;
Dabo Swinney, Clemson – $40,000,000
Jimbo Fisher, Florida State – $39,312,500
Nick Saban, Alabama – $26,900,000
Kirk Ferentz, Iowa – $22,537,500
Nick better get on this. He needs a raise and a higher buyout!
Dabo Swinney, Clemson – $40,000,000
Jimbo Fisher, Florida State – $39,312,500
Nick Saban, Alabama – $26,900,000
Kirk Ferentz, Iowa – $22,537,500
Nick better get on this. He needs a raise and a higher buyout!
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:05 am to drizztiger
How old are you? I think any rational and logical fan would be very impressed with a 9-3 season given the youth and injuries on this team. I saw where another O hater said Miami and Georgia played same amount of freshmen week 1...well guess what, Lsu fresh played combined 500 plays, while those of Georgia and Miami played less than 150. Plus, Lsu has played THREE fresh at times on the OL. Very critical positions. But we get it, you have your agenda. Btw, you like crown?
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:06 am to jeff70121
The comical one is ferentz...always overhyped. Talk about getting lucky. No wonder he always stayed there.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:08 am to Concordiatiger1
quote:I think what he really parlayed was into that buyout was fear of change and going backwards. Let's face it, in the last couple of years all the up-and-comers were identified and are now getting tested. At least in the minds of school ADs and admins. Yeah, rapeycrablegs had some to do with it in the fact he helped him bring a NC to FSU, but it's that resume checkbox that increases the fear of loss for the people who signed that contract.
Does he really have a $40m buyout? Holy shite. He parleyed crab legs into all of this..
quote:frankly, the ACC has been stronger for years and either has caught up with or topped the SEC. And yes, it's plausible that is showing up in Jimbo's record. They don't have the "Saban effect" over there where it's producing some lopsided recruiting conference wide, which weakens the SEC as a whole. So there's more parity in the ACC, which in reality and perception probably means they are a better conference.
...and playing in a weaker conference with by far more talent..
quote:eh... enough people were saying what you are saying, now, last year. Many predicted this. But there were enough who didn't where wanting Jimbo was certainly a valid point of view. Does one year like this ruin everything he's accomplished? Well... if one is of the position that CEO's OM record means he should've never been hired, and shouldn't be LSU's coach, then yeah- Jimbo can now never be LSU's coach. If Jimbo has a 'gimme season' with excuses, or reasons, depending on your position- then yeah, Jimbo is still a valid candidate.
The people that lobby for Jimbo amaze me. He is better than curly and chiz, who lucked out with favre and cam....but he is far overrated.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:14 am to I20goon
I disagree on strength of conferences. I admit the acc has improved the last couple years, but prior to that were way down. Miami has been down a decade. Louisville only recently became competitive, and Clemson was a south Carolina like team up until the last few years.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:15 am to bayoubengal4life
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Jimbo is a good coach but he is not worth 7+ million a year. That has become increasingly apparent over the last 3 years. So for that reason I'm glad that didn't work out.
I agree. I wasn't a huge fan of going all in on Fisher though he is IMO a step or 2 above O. The main reason I didn't have a huge problem with the O hire is keeping Aranda and if O sucked we could $#!T can him after a year or two with little to no buyout. That was before I realised the ridiculous buyout
Alleva gave O. This post was edited on 10/28/17 at 8:40 am
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:33 am to magildachunks
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O is going bowling. Jimbo is not.
Les' worst record was 8-4. Jimbo is atmost a poor man's Les Miles.
We dodged a huge bullet.
O could be a diamond in the rough, could be a huge find for LSU.
A poor man's Les Miles, Jimbo could be that, Jimbo wasn't facing Alabama every fricking season, one season having to do it twice!
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:38 am to rosiebean
I did not like Jimbo when he was LSU'S Offense coach. He played not to lose instead of to win!!! 
This post was edited on 10/28/17 at 8:40 am
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:39 am to TrueTigerTale
Jimbo has done a poor job this year. But you are delusional if you didn’t see quit in us v Moo State.
We rolled over and played dead in the 4th. Go watch the tape.
In any case I’d take Jimbo over O today, yesterday and tomorrow.
The “CEO” structure where subordinates don’t answer to nor respect the HC is dysfunctional. It can’t work long term.
Players and coaches like O, except Canada, they respect him as a person and a recruiter but not as a football guy, not someone who can scheme and game plan. That’s a problem.
I hope we win every game regardless of who the coach is but this structure is an issue.
We rolled over and played dead in the 4th. Go watch the tape.
In any case I’d take Jimbo over O today, yesterday and tomorrow.
The “CEO” structure where subordinates don’t answer to nor respect the HC is dysfunctional. It can’t work long term.
Players and coaches like O, except Canada, they respect him as a person and a recruiter but not as a football guy, not someone who can scheme and game plan. That’s a problem.
I hope we win every game regardless of who the coach is but this structure is an issue.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:40 am to Tigerbait357
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We still have idiots trying to say O is better than herman and compare LSU to Texas every
Well what's Herman's case?
If jimbos is his national title and conference wins, what exactly is so impressive about Herman?
Is it the mouth kissing you yearn for?
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:45 am to Tigerbait357
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We still have idiots trying to say O is better than herman and compare LSU to Texas every week
We still have idiots sucking Herman off even though he has a grand total of 1 good season as a HC. Truly elite coaches very rarely have teams that just completely suck when they have as much talent as Strong left behind. Most overrated coach I've ever seen and obsessive rant weirdos like you only think he's great because he turned us down
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