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re: For all those butthurt about this CA bill
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:25 pm to Perception
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:25 pm to Perception
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I do not see why college athletes should be getting paid...no one has come up with a good reason.
STOP SAYING IT THIS WAY! THIS IS NOT WHAT THE BILL SAYS
All the bill says is student athletes do not have to follow the rule I posted in my OP. It says NOTHING about players receiving a salary or "getting paid".
This is what I'm talking about!
I'll give you a good reason:
When I was in college, I was a powerlifter. I was also a strength trainer on the side to make a little extra money. People came to me because I was "national champion powerlifter". If powerlifting was an NCAA sport - this would have been a violation. Shouldn't it be my right to use my likeness and talents to earn money on the side?
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:27 pm to 777Tiger
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disagree, it's the program, the names and faces change at a maximum of three years, the program keeps rolling on
I'll ask again - how much money would LSU football make if they had no players?
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:31 pm to koLSU86
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My problem with this whole thing is it's only going to benefit the most popular players in the most popular sports. All of the unknown players on the random college sports teams are going to be left out of this entirely. Who is going to try to market a product with the third string lacrosse player?
You clearly don't understand the current NCAA rules and you clearly don't understand the purpose of the bill.
I've explained it here in this thread but you're ignoring it.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:31 pm to TchPowDog
Please tell me how allowing players to book advertising gigs wouldn’t turn into a complete agent run shite show?
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:33 pm to TchPowDog
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- how much money would LSU football make if they had no players?
kind of a dumb question but I'll play, where would all of the players go to "showcase their talents(hate that term,)?" if there were no LSU(s)?
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:35 pm to TchPowDog
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Shouldn't it be my right to use my likeness and talents to earn money on the side?
It's not black and white, if you accepted membership into an organization who forbids it then absolutely not!
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:35 pm to The Pirate King
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Please tell me how allowing players to book advertising gigs wouldn’t turn into a complete agent run shite show?
And would they have to pay to use the school's logo during advertising, training, or others? Without the university, most people wouldn't know who player A is.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:36 pm to Aristo
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And would they have to pay to use the school's logo during advertising, training, or others? Without the university, most people wouldn't know who player A is.
My point exactly, don't think for a second that the institution isn't gonna come after their taste of that!
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:36 pm to The Pirate King
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Please tell me how allowing players to book advertising gigs wouldn’t turn into a complete agent run shite show?
Think about Leonard Fournette's recruitment. He'd have received a guaranteed six figure "deal" from boosters for his future advertisement opportunities. 25K to advertise for Walk-Ons, 10K to advertise for X Car dealership, etc. This will likely become the norm for the major recruits, and it would all happen before these kids even graduate high school.
That's not good for the sport of college football.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:37 pm to koLSU86
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Okay. What happens when a quarterback is getting paid a lot of money for something and his other teammates aren't getting jack shite? Think that might cause a little division in a locker room? Especially when most of the players in that locker room aren't going to be playing professional sports and able to cash in later.
Where do you get "a lot of money" from? NOWHERE, does any of this imply players will receive "a lot of money" - this is fake news that people against the bill are pulling out of their arse.
Does it cause division in the NFL? Because there's a HUGE gap in pay there. Like 3,000% type gaps. (that wasn't a typo)
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:39 pm to TchPowDog
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I'll ask again - how much money would LSU football make if they had no players?
that is not even a sensible argument, the supply GREATLY outweighs the demand when it comes to athletes looking for a chance to play!
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:39 pm to TchPowDog
Secondly, you clearly don't understand advertising and most college athletes don't either. If you think for one second that a 19 year-old is going to get a non-exploitative deal from a shoe company you're crazy. They have no idea how to handle agents, and will get burned either by the company they've been licensed to or the agents that represent them. The idea of going to college to learn seems irrelevant to most sports fans, but the best of the best athletes have figured out that you can learn something in college other than how to play a sport and sell shoes.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:40 pm to TchPowDog
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You clearly don't understand the current NCAA rules and you clearly don't understand the purpose of the bill. I've explained it here in this thread but you're ignoring it.
You clearly just assume your opinion is the right one and call everyone else dumb or say they're ignoring the obvious. There isn't anything obvious about this and no one knows what will come of it. Personally, I hope the whole thing just fricking goes away. These kids are given a full ride to a university that most people in this world don't get. Why isn't that enough anymore? There are kids out there right now that are taking out loans and working their fricking arse off to put themselves through college and here you are worried about whether the athletes have the right to make more money on top of their fricking $40,000+ scholarship to play football. They get everything covered so it minimizes their expenses to a degree that most college students would dream of.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:42 pm to TchPowDog
Think about multi-billionaire alumni. Yale and Harvard will be powerhouses again. Get your "paycheck" plus
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:42 pm to RB10
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Think about Leonard Fournette's recruitment. He'd have received a guaranteed six figure "deal" from boosters for his future advertisement opportunities. 25K to advertise for Walk-Ons, 10K to advertise for X Car dealership, etc. This will likely become the norm for the major recruits, and it would all happen before these kids even graduate high school.
That's not good for the sport of college football.
Jesus Christ.
What if the new NCAA rule says "athletes can only receive up to $10,000 per year off their own likeness"?
This is the problem, you idiots are assuming (as I said in the OP) that it will be this open market, pay what you want circus.
What in the frick makes yall think it will be this way?!?!
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:43 pm to TchPowDog
I’m okay with them being able to make money off their likeness as long as they are required to report all earnings to compliance; however, YOU are naive if you think this doesn’t get completely out of hand. Money has always and will always cause people to do stupid shite.
All the proponents of this fail to mention the fact that these players are treated very well. They receive free education, free room and board and every amenity you can imagine while in school.
This is just the start of what will be expanded and amended numerous times. I’m sure this will work as flawlessly as Title IX has to this point, which is not well.
All the proponents of this fail to mention the fact that these players are treated very well. They receive free education, free room and board and every amenity you can imagine while in school.
This is just the start of what will be expanded and amended numerous times. I’m sure this will work as flawlessly as Title IX has to this point, which is not well.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:44 pm to TchPowDog
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This is the problem, you idiots are assuming (as I said in the OP) that it will be this open market, pay what you want circus.
You're assuming it's not going to be. How is that any better?
You're in here attacking everyone else and it's pretty clear who the least intelligent participant ITT is.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:45 pm to TchPowDog
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What in the frick makes yall think it will be this way?!?!
What makes you think it won't?
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:46 pm to koLSU86
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There are kids out there right now that are taking out loans and working their fricking arse off to put themselves through college
This fits the description of most NCAA athletes.
Congratulations, you get my point.
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you are worried about whether the athletes have the right to make more money on top of their fricking $40,000+ scholarship to play football
No, dumb frick. Did you read the OP - probably not. Most NCAA athletes aren't on scholarships and the ones who are most of them aren't on full-ride scholarships. The CA bill is aimed at those athletes who aren't on scholarships. Why? Because it's the majority of them!
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:46 pm to Pleasenewdc
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What in the frick makes yall think it will be this way?!?!
What in the frick makes you sure it won't be? You started this thread and people are trying to discuss it but if they disagree with you in the slightest they're dumb or just don't get it. Did you want to have a discussion or just push your fricking opinion in everyone's face? You know just as little as anyone else about this.
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