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Posted on 9/23/09 at 8:46 am to SlowFlowPro
these 06' teams were much better than their 07' teams IMO
UF 06> UF 07
Auburn 06 > Auburn 07'
Arky 06' > Arky 07
UF 06> UF 07
Auburn 06 > Auburn 07'
Arky 06' > Arky 07
Posted on 9/23/09 at 8:46 am to BayouBengals03
quote:
I'd say Mauch was a game manager. Lots of short passes, ran the ball a lot, etc.
mauck threw 28 TDs in 2003
mauck did poorly in most of our big games
and mauck was TEARING IT UP in 2002 before he got hurt
the argument for flynn is more valid. NO WAY was mauck a "Game manager." he was a gunslinger with all the characteristics of one
Posted on 9/23/09 at 9:02 am to Hot Carl
Carl, it looks like you stepped off in some deep water this time.
This post was edited on 9/23/09 at 9:03 am
Posted on 9/23/09 at 9:16 am to horndog
carl is 100% correct
people in this thread can try to change the connotation of "Game manager" all they want, but when people say, "game manager," it is not just a QB who has the ability to manage the games. it's a QB who ONLY has the ability to manage games
people in this thread can try to change the connotation of "Game manager" all they want, but when people say, "game manager," it is not just a QB who has the ability to manage the games. it's a QB who ONLY has the ability to manage games
Posted on 9/23/09 at 9:22 am to SlowFlowPro
JPW(bama 08') is the definition of game manager.
Posted on 9/23/09 at 9:26 am to lsu xman
krenzell is a good one too
wasn't asked to do much. didn't have big stats. was even mobile to scramble for some 1st downs
wasn't asked to do much. didn't have big stats. was even mobile to scramble for some 1st downs
Posted on 9/23/09 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
Would Jefferson qualify as a game manager?
I mean does the potential for him to throw for 300 yards and 3 picks disallow him from the title?
Because it appears we have now decided that if they COULD be better then they arent game managers. Based on the earlier statement that they CAN NOT do any thing else.
I mean does the potential for him to throw for 300 yards and 3 picks disallow him from the title?
Because it appears we have now decided that if they COULD be better then they arent game managers. Based on the earlier statement that they CAN NOT do any thing else.
Posted on 9/23/09 at 9:46 am to Hot Carl
quote:Uh, Matt Mauck and Matt Flynn would disagree with this.
"Game Managers" Do Not Win Championships
Posted on 9/23/09 at 9:47 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
people in this thread can try to change the connotation of "Game manager" all they want, but when people say, "game manager," it is not just a QB who has the ability to manage the games. it's a QB who ONLY has the ability to manage games
Says you, which is pretty much confirmation that the exact opposite is true. Thanks for the assist.
Posted on 9/23/09 at 9:50 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Nope. Mauck averaged about 6 yds per pass attempt. That is a manager not a slinger. West coast short pass, low risk scheme produces that kind of stat.
NO WAY was mauck a "Game manager." he was a gunslinger with all the characteristics of one
Posted on 9/23/09 at 9:59 am to Hot Carl
What an arse! See the following definition of "game manager"
Game Manager- one who is not the star on a team, but rather is expected to lead his team, not make mistakes. Additionally, if a play must be made, and all other playmakers are taken, said game manager should be able to improvise.
See list of Game managers:
Mauck
Flynn
Craig K from OSU
Josh Hypel
Chris Leak
Ken Dorsey
Chris Weinke
White from OU '03
Jason Campbell
believe it or not... Matt Leinhart (see NFL career and talent around him in college. wasn't asked to be special, just get it to special people)
Game management is the difference between qb's and great championship qb's. None of the guys above were "play makers". They did make plays when they had to (and so does Jefferson, already), but none of these guys were in the top 3 offensive options for thier team. Only 2 "playmakers" in last 10 years? Tebow and Young
Game Manager- one who is not the star on a team, but rather is expected to lead his team, not make mistakes. Additionally, if a play must be made, and all other playmakers are taken, said game manager should be able to improvise.
See list of Game managers:
Mauck
Flynn
Craig K from OSU
Josh Hypel
Chris Leak
Ken Dorsey
Chris Weinke
White from OU '03
Jason Campbell
believe it or not... Matt Leinhart (see NFL career and talent around him in college. wasn't asked to be special, just get it to special people)
Game management is the difference between qb's and great championship qb's. None of the guys above were "play makers". They did make plays when they had to (and so does Jefferson, already), but none of these guys were in the top 3 offensive options for thier team. Only 2 "playmakers" in last 10 years? Tebow and Young
Posted on 9/23/09 at 10:05 am to mamoutiga
Nice.
Posted on 9/23/09 at 10:21 am to Hot Carl
Know it all negative fans don't help ther football team either!...
Posted on 9/23/09 at 10:23 am to mamoutiga
You want a "game manager" from LSU? Think of Andrew Hatch.
On top of that, Jason White? In 2003 he threw for 3846 yards with 40 TDs and 10 INTs, to be followed up by 39 TDs and 9 INTs in 2004. That is not a game manager.
On top of that, Jason White? In 2003 he threw for 3846 yards with 40 TDs and 10 INTs, to be followed up by 39 TDs and 9 INTs in 2004. That is not a game manager.
This post was edited on 9/23/09 at 10:34 am
Posted on 9/23/09 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
98: don't remember – YES / T Martin he had Jammal Lewis, Travis Henry and Peerless Price
99: hell no – YES / Weinke Minor, Kendra, Warrick, Dugans
00: yes - Agree
01: no - YES / Dorsey Portis, Shockey, Andre Johnson
02: yes - Agree
03 (LSU): no - YES / Mauck Broussard, Vincent, Clayton, Green, Bowe, Henderson
03 (USC): no – Agree
04: no – Agree
05: hell no – Agree
06: maybe - YES / Leak
07: no - Maybe / Flynn
08: hell no - Agree
A QB manages the game. Dorsey a Playmaker? Really? Weinke? Yes, they make plays, there job was to get the ball to the playmakers. Look at the PLAY MAKERS these QBs had around them.
The exception to the rule is a V Young or Tebow.
7 Yes
4 No
1 Maybe
99: hell no – YES / Weinke Minor, Kendra, Warrick, Dugans
00: yes - Agree
01: no - YES / Dorsey Portis, Shockey, Andre Johnson
02: yes - Agree
03 (LSU): no - YES / Mauck Broussard, Vincent, Clayton, Green, Bowe, Henderson
03 (USC): no – Agree
04: no – Agree
05: hell no – Agree
06: maybe - YES / Leak
07: no - Maybe / Flynn
08: hell no - Agree
A QB manages the game. Dorsey a Playmaker? Really? Weinke? Yes, they make plays, there job was to get the ball to the playmakers. Look at the PLAY MAKERS these QBs had around them.
The exception to the rule is a V Young or Tebow.
7 Yes
4 No
1 Maybe
Posted on 9/23/09 at 11:14 am to mikedatyger
So a playmaker is not allowed to have any talent around him? Well then I guess Tebow was a game manager since he had Harvin, Murphy, Demps, and Rainey last year. Saying that a quarterback is a game manager is equivalent to saying that a girl who is fat and ugly has a great personality.
Posted on 9/23/09 at 11:48 am to PiscesTiger
quote:
Macuk made more deep TD throws than any LSU qb I have ever see and that includes Rohan and JR.
Did you know that in 05, Flynn as a backup, had more TD passes of 40 yds and over than did JR?
quote:
Flynn benefited from seriously taking every practice of every year from '03-'07 as if he was the starter and learned a ton backing up Mauck, Randall, and Russell.
How do you account for the 05 Peach Bowl? Flynn must have been a fast learner. He was MVP.
quote:
Flynn on the other hand relied on a ton of other people to help
Yeah, he started the 07 season with one experienced receiver, Doucet, and then Doucet was injured.
Flynn was MVP of both post season games in which he started. He threw four TD passes in the BCS National Championship game. I think that is the record for BCS Championships.
He "managed" to throw several TD passes and "managed" to gain some key yards with his feet which moved the chains. I suppose that would qualify him for the label of "Game Manager"
Posted on 9/23/09 at 12:04 pm to mikedatyger
Wouldnt all of these TOP level PLAY MAKERS we are speaking of be in the NFL as we speak.
I would think that if they ALL possessed this exceptional ability to single handedly make plays and lift their respective teams to National Championships they would be filling up the rosters of the NFL by now.
I would think that if they ALL possessed this exceptional ability to single handedly make plays and lift their respective teams to National Championships they would be filling up the rosters of the NFL by now.
Posted on 9/23/09 at 12:15 pm to Big Fat
quote:
Mauck averaged about 6 yds per pass attempt.
his 2003 stats
14 148.24 358-229-14 64.0 2825 28 64 201.8
229/358 (64.0%) for 2825 and 28/14
2825/358 = 7.89 yards/attempt
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