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Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:46 am to JiminyCricket
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I think we get Moore back.
That is such a unique set of skills he will be a high draft pick (for OL).
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:47 am to LSBoosie
Yeah cause no one ever gets better with experience dumbass.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:01 pm to TigerBait2008
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Yeah cause no one ever gets better with experience dumbass.
Gotta get some different coaching in there too. I really think the right guy can mold Davis into something special. You will also have some really nice weapons next year. With the right staff, I think LSU has the potential to be dynamic.
QB - MVB/Portal
RB - Berry/Durham/Johnson/Portal
TE - TreyDez/Green/Lafleur
LT - Adams/Portal
LG - Echols/Mubenga
C - Moore/Portal
RG - Curne/Chester
RT - Davis/Thomas
WR - Parker/Portal
WR - Nic/Francis
WR - Hill/Portal
Edge - Reliford/Shanklin/Carpenter
DT - McKinley/Mathis/Anderson
DT - Breaux/Brown
Edge - Portal
LB - Singleton/Keys
LB - Whit?/Zach/Ross
Star - Ross/Portal
CB - Woodland/Jackson
CB - Pickett/Anding/Finney
S - Spears/Rogers/Portal
S - Cooley/Portal
You'll have to address the defense in the portal more than the offense imo but with a couple of portal hits at a few spots and a couple of guys coming back, you have a solid group to build around for next season. Gonna have to fix the offensive coaching staff though or it won't matter.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:01 pm to TigerBait2008
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Yeah cause no one ever gets better with experience dumbass.
I never said that. However I did have a bunch of people try to tell me before the season how much better Chester, Adams, and Mubenga were going to be this year… If you like the idea of running it back with the same guys next year, good for you. I just think differently.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:04 pm to LSBoosie
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I never said that. However I did have a bunch of people try to tell me before the season how much better Chester, Adams, and Mubenga were going to be this year… If you like the idea of running it back with the same guys next year, good for you. I just think differently.
Don't just pick the negative though. Kyle Parker is better this year than last. DaShawn Spears is better. Trey Dez is better this year. PJ Woodland has become a really nice player for you. Coen Echols is putting it together up front. Some guys stagnate, sure, but some do improve.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:06 pm to JiminyCricket
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Don't just pick the negative though. Kyle Parker is better this year than last. DaShawn Spears is better. Trey Dez is better this year. PJ Woodland has become a really nice player for you. Coen Echols is putting it together up front. Some guys stagnate, sure, but some do improve.
Sure, but it’s no guarantee. I have no idea how much guys will improve and I’ll never pretend to know. I go off of what I see. It’s literally why this entire board was pissed about Clemson having so much hype. They brought back a bunch of guys from a bad defense and people tried to claim that they’d suddenly be good.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:13 pm to LSBoosie
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Sure, but it’s no guarantee. I have no idea how much guys will improve and I’ll never pretend to know. I go off of what I see. It’s literally why this entire board was pissed about Clemson having so much hype. They brought back a bunch of guys from a bad defense and people tried to claim that they’d suddenly be good.
Which is why I didn't speak in definitives. I didn't say LSU would be good on the offensive line next season. I said LSU has the potential to be a good group next season. LSU has a bunch of big, strong, athletic guys in that room. Can the right guy mold that ball of clay into something good? We will have to see, but he'll have good raw materials to build with.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:16 pm to JiminyCricket
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Which is why I didn't speak in definitives.
I wasn’t accusing you of doing so
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:18 pm to TJG210
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Do you think fans will give Kelly a cent after pissing away the haul he got last yr?
fans?? I dont think "fans" comprise much of the NIL bucket.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:19 pm to Dotarian
We just need to pony up some bucks and get a solid tackle and guard, completely solidify one side of the line to where, barring injury, we have no worries about who will start.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:21 pm to JimTiger72
quote:I didn't mention him for exactly that reason - I said "getting playing time this year".
Seems like a weird way to disqualify Solomon Thomas who may be our best freshman OL, but has been injured all season
He may be a stud, he could be a bust. We don't know because we haven't seen him play a single down this year. That's not a slam on him though, since my primary concern is that he won't benefit from good coaching when he actually does get to practice and play.
Talented kids can be ruined by bad coaching. Middling to good kids can be elevated with superior coaching.
Which situation do you think Thomas will be in next year, given the history of Sloan and Davis so far? And, going along with that thought, how do you feel about Echols, Davis and Adams improving next year without better coaching? Some benefit will come from age and experience, but will it be enough to get next year's OL over the hump they've been stifled by this year? Do you believe that this coaching staff can actually help Chester become more than the middling-to-poor OL he's been to date?
Put another way: do you believe that this OC and OL coach can actually develop the underperforming players we've seen this year, and help actual studs like Thomas and Curne maximize their potential?
Not picking a fight, actually curious what you think.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:24 pm to wesman21
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guard,
Echols and Curne with Moore in the middle is a really solid, physical group.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:49 pm to Shaq4prez
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fans?? I dont think "fans" comprise much of the NIL bucket.
Ok, then tell us who will be giving this money to Kelly. Does anyone want to invest more and get the same or worse results? Not to mention Kelly’s smug arrogant attitude has probably poisoned some of those wells too.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:58 pm to Dotarian
Wrong, it should be better. Did you get worse at your job after a year or better?
Posted on 10/21/25 at 1:08 pm to Kool Kaliper
quote:Funny that you use that example.
Wrong, it should be better. Did you get worse at your job after a year or better?
I'm in IT, currently an IT architect. And I can absolutely say that talented IT folks can go stale over a year or two with little or no proactive support and guidance from their manager. And "ok" IT folks can be extremely productive if supported and coached the right way, and put in positions to maximize their talent.
That said, I agree that they "should be better" after a year of experience. But how much better? If you accept that the coaching staff is sub-par then are you willing to simply accept whatever growth occurs naturally?
I tend to believe that good people excel when properly coached/managed, supported, and put in positions to maximize their strengths. Excellent people become absolute studs with the same support.
For what we've paid this coach and his offensive staff, I expect better development and performance from the kids they're responsible for coaching. What we've seen to date is an insult to both the fans and to the kids themselves. They deserve better than what they've gotten so far - and so do we.
Just one grumpy old man's opinion. TIFWIW
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 10/21/25 at 2:00 pm to JiminyCricket
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LT-Tyree Adams LG- Coen Echols/Mubenga C-Braelin RG-Curne/Chester/Solomon RT-Davis/Portal?
Curne and Thomas are both physically very talented. Hopefully they will be ready, because they should be on the field at the same time. If Davis somehow becomes a serviceable right tackle, then curne and Thomas can be lg and rg. If not then curne or Thomas needs to go to rt with echols staying at lg
Posted on 10/21/25 at 2:01 pm to Dotarian
Can it be worse?
Posted on 10/21/25 at 2:05 pm to Dotarian
If no changes on the offensive staff then the OL will be terrible.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 2:05 pm to Dotarian
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