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Posted on 8/10/19 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 3:36 pm to
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Even if it was a slight at LSU. Les Miles has every right to take shots at LSU. The dude won a national championship here, was the winningest coach in LSU history, and he was fired in the most disrespectful way possible.



Like most folks on the rant, I was ready for LSU and Miles to part ways. Although I felt it should have been done at the end of the 2015 season.

But I agree with you that Miles was fired in a disrespectful way. If he was good enough to hang on to going into the 2016 season, He should have been allowed the chance to right the ship and been able to finish out the 2016 season. In my opinion.

And in my opinion, I feel that Miles has handled his firing in a very classy manner. He should be given kudos for that alone, even if people didn't like his style of coaching.

Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 6:33 pm to
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It's his alma mater. I know you don't know that so your ignorance is excused.
Gee.. Thanks for the news flash Goldy, but every Buckeye in Northern Ohio knows that Bubba's kid chose to play for the Skunk Weasels.
This post was edited on 8/10/19 at 6:33 pm
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12833 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 6:48 pm to
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But ask folks who worked under him or besides in the Athletic department. Ask Skip and two BOS members at the time. They weren't crying when he left for the NFL and was amused he asked for his old job back when he had one foot out the door in South Florida.


That’s fake news. Saban was not well liked but he was respected. Skip tried everything to get him to stay.
Posted by Rosenblatt
Member since Apr 2019
6294 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:23 pm to
Yea and I’d love to know if those stubborn jackasses are still amused that they rejected his attempts to come back.

High fives all around fellas. Good one
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33865 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 10:24 pm to
And to think I argued for years with so many clueless posters, about Miles never being offered the Michigan job. Ever!

Had he been, he would have bolted with the quickness. UM never wanted him. But posters were screaming that Miles had turned them down. Twice!
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
90613 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 10:29 pm to
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And to think I argued for years with so many clueless posters,


welcome to TD

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UM never wanted him.


probably agent promoted

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Miles had turned them down. Twice!


you need an Indian(feather, not dot,) decoder to figure out whatever is coming out of his pie hole
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48099 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:01 am to
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WTF is wrong with you? 


nothing.
I use facts to support my opinions

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everyone else would feel about him the way you feel about him now. 

feelings never enter my posts.
accomplishments are facts
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He was not a solid coach a


there is zero evidence that he wasnt a solid coach.
in fact the evidence points to him being a great coach(I wouldnt label him great)

took a program that couldnt get to .500 play 10 of the previous 11 years and had them winning 7,8,9 games.

had the most accomplished tenure ever at top 15 alltime program

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showed once Saban came back to the Wes

please tell me the coach that couldve stopped what Saban created at bama?
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West schools got better. L

what?
2005- 2013 was the most dominant era of sec football ever. 4 national title winners.
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Louisiana talent made Miles! Believe tha

again I ask... where are these cfb coaches that DONT need elite talent to win titles?

its amazing that you dont feel the same way about O as you do miles.
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 2:03 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48099 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:04 am to
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After 2011, he was no better than the 3rd best coach in the West.


2012- 2016 he has the 3rd best sec win % behind only bama and georgia.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48099 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:08 am to
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Why are you trying to turn this into a O discussion?


you used Miles getting only the Kansas job as proof he wasnt a good coach.
I've yet to see you post anything like that about your deity O.

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Stay on point or the GTFO



I'll post whatever the frick I want.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48099 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:16 am to
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his last few years our OL was bullied by any DL worth a shi

2015 oline rankings. lsu # 7

2014 oline rankings lsu #3

2013 oline rankings lsu #16

2016 oline rankings lsu#3


people that get paid to evaluate oline play disagrees with you.

also, what program has the olines that play better against great dlines than they do against inferior ones?
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 2:18 am
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72115 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:13 am to
You just linked pre season OL rankings

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also, what program has the olines that play better against great dlines than they do against inferior ones?


Well, bama defense for instance was more dominant vs LSU run than many other offenses and, according to your pre season rankings, inferior OLs to LSU as well. I have no idea why a program with such highly regarded OL manage to get bullied.

Losing the battle up front is one thing. Getting your absolute shite pushed in for an entire game is another. There comes a point where it’s either technique or S&C and Moffitt sure as shite wasn’t the problem.

And you didn’t comment on any of my other points so I will assume you agree with them.

I will always have a great deal of respect for Les. But he was not a great HC. He had flashes and he recruited well, but not a tactician and certainly very, very stubborn. There’s a reason his best option post LSU was Kansas.
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 8:15 am
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4963 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 1:05 pm to
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2012- 2016 he has the 3rd best sec win % behind only bama and georgia.


Yet he was no better than 3rd in the West during that span. Surround yourself with misleading stats to give yourself comfort. Miles is a doofus that ate grass and was clueless to what was happening on the field most of the time.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4963 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 1:09 pm to
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You just linked pre season OL rankings



Those are facts
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 1:40 pm to
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Yet he was no better than 3rd in the West during that span.


Yep. No better than 3rd in the West. And that's exactly where the program's been camped out since he was fired.

3rd in the West.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48099 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 1:44 pm to
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You just linked pre season OL rankings ?


where do preseason rankings come from?

what happened last year and what is returning.


Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48099 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 1:46 pm to
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Surround yourself with misleading stats to give yourself comfort



being the most accomplished coach in lsu history is misleading?

-#1 win % in lsu history is misleading?
-as many top 5 finishes as Saban,mac and dietzel combined is misleading?
- as many top 10 finishes as the previous 40 years of lsu football combined is misleading?

those are facts. it's your opinion he wasnt good

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Miles is a doofus that ate grass and was clueless to what was happening on the field most of the time.


then I hope O is too because he wont accomplish half of what miles did
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48099 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 1:52 pm to
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But he was not a great HC.


never said he was great. that's subjective. I said he is accomplished. I'm not gonna change your opinion on something you've made your mind up on but his accomplishments are undeniable.

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. Getting your absolute shite pushed in for an entire game is another


this really only happened against bama.
these type of ganes were the outlier in Miles tenure. we know this because during his tenure no program beat more ranked teams than lsu.

if what he accomplished is so easy why hasnt every LSU coach done it?
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 1:53 pm
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20002 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 6:31 pm to
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if what he accomplished is so easy why hasnt every LSU coach done it?
look, I agree Les had success here. I’d argue there was a lot of underachievement too, but I’ll acknowledge Les had success.

But if Les was so good, why weren’t other programs lined up to hire him?

He landed at Kansas, Rick.

Kansas.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48099 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 6:56 pm to
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But if Les was so good, why weren’t other programs lined up to hire him? 

He landed at Kansas, Rick. 

Kansas.





because the average age of p5 coach is 44 and he is 65. again I repeatedly asked for this long list of 64 year old p5 coaches getting hired. miles was the oldest p5 coach hired in over a decade besides snyder who had already been a coach at Kansas state.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20002 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 7:58 pm to
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because the average age of p5 coach is 44 and he is 65. again I repeatedly asked for this long list of 64 year old p5 coaches getting hired. miles was the oldest p5 coach hired in over a decade besides snyder who had already been a coach at Kansas state.
yea, I knew age was going to be your excuse.
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