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re: JD will sling the ball vs Purdue
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:02 am to GeorgeWest
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:02 am to GeorgeWest
quote:What were the reasons for the wins against Auburn and Arkansas?
What caused us to lose our 4 games in 2022 was NOT JD5. It was terrible special teams poor running game, and spotty defense.
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:04 am to Penrod
quote:Don’t insult Young by comparing JD to him. They are in completely different leagues when it comes to QB play.
Daniels is never going to be a guy, like Bryce Young, who almost never runs. He’s too good on the hoof.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:27 am to coondaddy21
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Much like A&M and Georgia did.
You are not very bright when it comes to football. Ask any coach to watch those two games and they will all say the same thing.....You cannot win if you cannot stop the other team.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:40 am to mtntiger
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Having a completion percentage near 70 percent is worthless if you can't translate that to points. He throws short of the sticks way too often.
Daniels led LSU to 23 points in 7 possessions against FSU and should have been at least 27 without the blocked kicks. He was a little less efficient in the A&M game with 23 points in 9 possessions (though it would have more without the dropped passes.) Those were the only two games they had less than 10 possessions. A normal game is around 12 offensive possessions. The defense not getting FSU and A&M off the field (and special teams gaffes against FSU) is what cost those games, not Daniels.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:43 am to GeorgeWest
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What caused us to lose our 4 games in 2022 was NOT JD5. It was terrible special teams poor running game, and spotty defense.
If you want to go there, the defense and running game other than JD were pretty good vs Arkansas and Auburn and won both of those games. Two games in which JD was absolutely terrible.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:47 am to MikeTheTiger71
You're kind of proving my point. Knowing that you have limited possessions because the defense is struggling, scoring is crucial. He couldn't get it done.
BTW - the number of possessions is a bit pointless, because the other team isn't getting more possessions. It is simply holding onto the ball longer. Sometimes the offense has to adjust to help the defense.
BTW - the number of possessions is a bit pointless, because the other team isn't getting more possessions. It is simply holding onto the ball longer. Sometimes the offense has to adjust to help the defense.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:48 am to Choot em Tiger
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If you want to go there, the defense and running game other than JD were pretty good vs Arkansas and Auburn and won both of those games. Two games in which JD was absolutely terrible.
We won those games.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:50 am to azcatiger
Won those games in spite of Jayden Daniels. The dude gave Arkansas the ball at the LSU 5 and the defense still didn’t allow them to score 
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:55 am to TrouserTrout
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Don’t insult Young by comparing JD to him. They are in completely different leagues when it comes to QB play.
This. Bryce Young is a pro QB. Daniels waits too long to get the ball out because he doesn’t understand his reads. Sorry for being realistic.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 10:20 am to kareem
He’s started, what, 40+ games now. Unless he got a faster processor for Christmas, he is what he is. A gifted athlete that will occasionally hit on a throw or two, but mostly, it’s one read and off he goes running the ball. This isn’t suddenly going to change.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 10:29 am to Choot em Tiger
Let’s hope whatever it is in His psyche that he can overcome it and utilize the most talented room on the team.
There’s a reason he is coming back. The NFL didn’t think as highly of him as he’d hoped when it was thought he was “one and done.” The NFL grade and Kipers thinking he is a top 5 QB are two different things. If he were top 5 he’d be gone and rightfully so.
There’s a reason he is coming back. The NFL didn’t think as highly of him as he’d hoped when it was thought he was “one and done.” The NFL grade and Kipers thinking he is a top 5 QB are two different things. If he were top 5 he’d be gone and rightfully so.
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 10:30 am
Posted on 12/27/22 at 10:45 am to mtntiger
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You're kind of proving my point. Knowing that you have limited possessions because the defense is struggling, scoring is crucial. He couldn't get it done. BTW - the number of possessions is a bit pointless, because the other team isn't getting more possessions. It is simply holding onto the ball longer. Sometimes the offense has to adjust to help the defense.
I think you missed MY point. In a low possession game, what is critical is the number of points per possession, not the total points. Both teams have fewer chances to score, so the point totals may be deceiving. The defense didn’t play a great game against FSU surrendering 24 points. Likewise, the offense was very efficient in that game. The 27 points they put the team in position to score without the blocked kicks in only 7 possessions was a very efficient output. In a normal possession game, that translates to well over 40 points. The A&M game still translated to 31+ in a normal possession game and would have been more without the pass drops. The offense (or at least Daniels) did their job in those games. The problem was the defense surrendered points at an even higher clip AND limited LSU’s chances to respond by not getting them off the field.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:05 am to kareem
It could possibly happen as well as him reverting back to not throwing the 50/50 ball down field. Got to learn to trust his receivers to go make a play. Hopefully he gives it a chance and not over rely on his legs
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:05 am to Choot em Tiger
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Won those games in spite of Jayden Daniels
How did we win Bama?
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:52 am to azcatiger
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How did we win Bama?
JD made the big clutch plays in the game that are most memorable but there are a number of overlooked variables.
The longest catch of the game was a swing pass to Emery that he took down the sidelines.
The D held Young under 50% completion and had an INT in the end zone to stop a scoring opportunity.
The RBs averaged 7.2 ypc.
The D held Bama to 9 points through 3 Qtrs and 24 by the end of regulation which is impressive vs their offense.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:11 pm to GeorgeWest
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What caused us to lose our 4 games in 2022 was NOT JD5. It was terrible special teams poor running game, and spotty defense.
Tell me you don’t know football without telling me you don’t know football.. One of the biggest reasons our run game was not great is bc the defense would key on the run and dare us to throw it.. JD hardly ever threw the ball downfield. That fact alone, let defenses scheme to stop the run and play aggressive.
JD won us games, but he absolutely was the biggest reason we lost some games
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:16 pm to BayouCowboy
quote:This is not the kind analysis the JD lovers want to see. You could actually say they won in spite of his very very average QB play.
JD made the big clutch plays in the game that are most memorable but there are a number of overlooked variables. The longest catch of the game was a swing pass to Emery that he took down the sidelines. The D held Young under 50% completion and had an INT in the end zone to stop a scoring opportunity. The RBs averaged 7.2 ypc. The D held Bama to 9 points through 3 Qtrs and 24 by the end of regulation which is impressive vs their offense.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:31 pm to azcatiger
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You are not very bright when it comes to football. Ask any coach to watch those two games and they will all say the same thing.....You cannot win if you cannot stop the other team.
You are not very bright because I’m referring to what the defense of the other team did to the offense. It’s obvious you need both sides of the ball playing well to win games but, if you can’t throw the ball as an offense, you won’t win as many games as you want to win.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:38 pm to TrouserTrout
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This is not the kind analysis the JD lovers want to see. You could actually say they won in spite of his very very average QB play.
That's not what I said at all. JD made some outstanding runs and was the leading rusher. He also made clutch passes down the stretch. His passing stats weren't outstanding (182 yds on 32 attempts) but he made the throws he had to.
I want to see JD stretch the field as much as anyone else, but you can't understate his dynamic running ability. If he trusts his ability and his receivers he is the best QB option. It's a big "if", but I'd like to see how he does with another off season with the staff and his WRs.
I'm probably going to piss off everyone because I believe:
JD can become a more confident passer with more time with the new staff and WRs.
Nuss is a playmaker and will cut down on mistakes significantly with more time with the 1's.
Howard is the real deal and a championship caliber QB.
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:46 pm to Barbellthor
Never mind. lol
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 12:54 pm
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