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Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:16 pm to
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:16 pm to
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Stevenson is batting 100 points lower

Laird has also had more than twice the plate appearances so it isn't exactly comparing apples to apples. Laird has been better, but it isn't as significant as the numbers would suggest at face value. Both have been bad against the SEC.
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 8:17 pm
Posted by doze4
Greens burgs
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:17 pm to
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Been saying for months...should be McMullen Rhymes Bregman Katz Ibarra Then everyone else


McMullen
Bregman
Katz
Rhymes
Ibarra

Then everybody else. But I'm ok with yours too.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:17 pm to
But Laird started well and seems to be coming on as of late
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:19 pm to
It's more impressive as numbers typically go down the more at bats you have.
Posted by roygu
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:22 pm to
It seems like just yesterday fans were saying the same about a freshman named Nola playing shortstop.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:24 pm to
Those of us who paid attention to Nola's at bats and knew baseball, knew he was going to be okay. He worked counts and got on base. These guys aren't working counts like that.
Posted by doze4
Greens burgs
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:27 pm to
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And if PM had him 9th, we might see a huge game later in the postseason, bottom of the ninth, 2 outs with Laird batting when it could have been someone else.


Surely you understand the concept that your 2 hole hitter is likely to get more at bats per game than the 9 hole hitter, right ?

Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:32 pm to
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It's more impressive as numbers typically go down the more at bats you have.

Stevenson has had 89 official ABs. Do you know what Laird's average is over his last 89 ABs? Do you know what each is hitting against SEC pitching? Neither are going to be in the lineup for their offense, Laird just ran up some good numbers in non conference play. When it comes to where we are now and where we're going....Laird gives you a little more offense than Stevenson (but neither one is very good), and Stevenson gives you a little better defense in center (but both are good). Both are big defensive upgrades over anyone that would replace them.
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 8:34 pm
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:40 pm to
How do you know that they are both huge upgrades over Mcmullen
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:50 pm to
I can only assume because playing McMullen in right would be the easiest way to fix the lineup. It would allow you to get Foster's bat in the lineup at DH without him costing anything on defense, and you would still have Laird or Stevenson to patrol center. The fact that he hasn't even been given a chance speaks volumes, imo.
Posted by doze4
Greens burgs
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:57 pm to
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I can only assume because playing McMullen in right would be the easiest way to fix the lineup. It would allow you to get Foster's bat in the lineup at DH without him costing anything on defense, and you would still have Laird or Stevenson to patrol center. The fact that he hasn't even been given a chance speaks volumes, imo.


I know it's been talked about before, but what about Foster in Left, Laird in center, McMullen in right & Rhymes DH once we start the regionals ?
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:00 pm to
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McMullen
Bregman
Katz
Rhymes
Ibarra

You don't put your best hitter second.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30778 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:03 pm to
I think it is safe to say there is no chance Foster and McMullen will play in the same outfield.
Posted by doze4
Greens burgs
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:05 pm to
Bro, only reason I switched Bregman & Rhymes there is because I like Bregman's speed and base running better than Rhymes. Plus, an argument could be made that Katz is our best hitter. He and Bregman had the same exact batting average going into today.
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:06 pm to
We won't see either of them in the outfield again with the love fest Mainieri has for Stevenson.
Posted by Broham
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19097 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:07 pm to
Katz is no slouch but give me Bregman.
Posted by doze4
Greens burgs
Member since Aug 2007
2114 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:09 pm to
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We won't see either of them in the outfield again with the love fest Mainieri has for Stevenson.


Is it safe to say, that behind Laird & Stevenson, Foster & McMullen are the next two fastest guys on the team ?
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
19097 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:11 pm to
I'm not sure, I just know their not liabilities out there like most think.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30778 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:12 pm to
Mainieri obviously thinks the offensive advantages a Laird-Foster/McMullen outfield would give you do not outweigh the defensive advantages of a Stevenson-Laird outfield.

Maybe it would be different if several of the other spots couldn't produce like they have, or if our pitching was weaker forcing us to play more slugfests.
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 9:13 pm
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
19097 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:14 pm to
Stevenson did hit the ball hard when he hit it off the pitcher, I hope we see more of that.
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