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re: Les Miles vs. Nick Saban

Posted on 4/7/09 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 4:45 pm to
dude, don't respond to me again, if you bothered to read my first posts I did nothing to discredit Miles, you guys are way too sensitive with stuff concerning Miles anyway, and it wasn't me bashing and callin people idiots when I first started talkin about this, get your facts straight you frickin moron.
Posted by lsutothetop
TigerDroppings Elite
Member since Jul 2008
11323 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 5:02 pm to
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Les Miles vs. Nick Saban

Holy crap, a truly original talking point!

Gerry Dinardo set everything up for Nick Saban, by the way. High school connections, consistent winning in first three seasons translating to in-state interest, etc. Saban finished what Dinardo started, and to say Miles finishes what Saban started without acknowledging Dinardo is being pretty illogical.
Posted by smokebendtiger
Member since Oct 2008
97 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 5:05 pm to
40 pages. Atleast.
Posted by pdaddy
Member since Aug 2005
104 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 5:06 pm to
I think NS is like the CEO who comes into a company, breaks everything down, cuts waste, and builds it back up. CEO's like that are short lived and usually cant maintain that extreme growth. LM on the other hand is more steady, someone who can guide the company for long term growth, and to borrow a quote, helps build a solid "program". Just my opinion.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23367 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 5:26 pm to
If you could shoot yourself in the face that'd be just sooper
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
7009 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 5:57 pm to
What is Miles record against non conference?
FAR SUPERIOR to little nicky.

When has LSU last lost at home to UAB, or ULM?

What is Miles bowl record at LSU?

I will take MILES all the way!!!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
136931 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 6:07 pm to
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if you bothered to read my first posts I did nothing to discredit Miles






OK, let's review
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Saban comes back that Katrina year, his D definitely doesn't blow a lead against Tenn like Miles team did, and they go unbeaten the rest of the year like they did and crush Ga. in the SEC title game.
Stupid statement and an obvious effort to diss Miles
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but they should have won that bowl game, DB blows coverage against Iowa that's not Saban's fault, that's why he got so pissed.

but your wrong about 2005, they would have gone unbeaten with JR and contended for another BCS title.

Sabanista excuses. Stupid assertion and an obvious effort to discredit Miles
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a Saban coached defense would not have gone into that SEC chanp game against UGA like they did and get blown out.
Clueless Saban worship. Baseless assertion Stupid statement and another obvious effort to diss Miles.

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Saban's laid foundation is the reason why Miles kept winning big is what you should admit
More Saban fellating and yet another effort to diss Miles

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my man, you know Les took over a program loaded down with talent, why do folks always over look that, that is all I'm sayin.
. . . and yet again

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one of y'all could have put on the headset and won with that talent, hell in 2005 the talent alone won all those games

Not only is Saban better, but you or anyone else off the street are at least as good.






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I never said anything about not liking Miles

Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85811 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 6:09 pm to
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"LSU fan...till I die"


Is that happening soon ?

:beatdeadhorse: :beatdeadhorse:
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 6:19 pm to
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one of y'all could have put on the headset and won with that talent,


I have to say, of all the stupid arguments and ridiculous assertions spewed on the Rant, this has to take the cake. Although this isn't the first time I've seen it posted (mostly by Bammers and other opposing fans), it's the first time I've seen it used by someone declaring that they're not "bashing" Miles. By thinking, and therefore typing that sentence, you have shown beyond a reasonable doubt that you: (1) have no actual knowledge of the game of football; (2) bashed Les Miles; and (3) are an idiot.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 6:20 pm to
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this is the truth. LSU's records would have been better if we still had Saban here.


I will be happy to believe you and stop thinking that you're a complete fricking moron if you can do just one thing: PROVE IT.

Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 7:10 pm to
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NC Tigah
or shall I say clueless Tigah
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More Saban fellating and yet another effort to diss Miles
how can I bl__ him with your mouth so tightly wrapped around his private, you won't share. truth be told, you guys denial about Saban leaving the cupboard stocked is astounding
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Not only is Saban better, but you or any else off the street are at least as good.
WoW, you are a total retard, sir, so you not only misinterpreted everything I said so it could fit your own jackass agenda, but now you stoop to new lows, the people that I had a decent conversation with about this subject knew what I was talkin about, that is all that matters, you and the rest of the other clowns are so overprotective of Miles you should be on the staff.

p.s. criticizing Miles on certain issues or second guessing decisions he makes is commonplace, amongst anyone, analyst do it, other coaches do it, doesn't mean I don't like him, ok, Mr. Mom.
This post was edited on 4/7/09 at 7:43 pm
Posted by bently78
lafayette
Member since Jan 2008
128 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 7:16 pm to
there is no doubt about it saban is a very good coach, however the end all be all will be when 10 years from now when we look back and see who has the win advantage
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 7:27 pm to
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I have to say, of all the arguments and ridiculous assertions spewed on the Rant, this has to take the cake.
and yet another clown, this is the Rant you know? as you put it, as if you haven't been making a-hole statements since you been on here I would have to say you take the cake having the nerve to say some dumb, dumb arse shite like that.
This post was edited on 4/7/09 at 7:29 pm
Posted by BT4LSU
Could be Anywhere, at Anytime
Member since Feb 2005
3280 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 7:53 pm to
This pussy appears not to know me too well..

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dude, don't respond to me again, if you bothered to read my first posts I did nothing to discredit Miles, you guys are way too sensitive with stuff concerning Miles anyway, and it wasn't me bashing and callin people idiots when I first started talkin about this, get your facts straight you frickin moron.


Now that is funny. This newbie telling BT what to say and not to say...


Here is your first post, you worthless frick.

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Taking off your P&G glasses, people would say Nick Saban is better than Les Miles. Nick Saban came to Baton Rouge when LSU was a mediocre program in the nation, and he has turned the program around in just three years. However, Les Miles inherited Nick Saban's team and had the team going at 8-5 record last year (downhill).

At Bama, Nick Saban is god because he turned the program around in just two years, beating Les Miles and his LSU team - a defending NC- at their house. I know many of you will think this is Germans, but this is the truth. LSU's records would have been better if we still had Saban here. Thanks.

Your opinions are welcome
___________________________________________-
Well good then. Here they come.

My opinon is that you telling people to take off their purple and gold glasses tells me you're a fricking moron.

My opinion is that you don't know shite, you fricking moron.

My opinion is that you never played a down of college, let alone high school football in your life, and you have no idea of what it takes to
be a college player or coach, you fricking moron.


My opinion is that you discredited Miles right from the begining, you fricking moron.

My opinion is that you can't handle someone telling you their damn opinion and supporting it with damn fact, you fricking moron.

My opinion is that Les Miles is better because:
1) He won more than Saban did with Saban's players
2) Has recruited better than Saban did while Saban was at LSU,and even the last three years put together, Miles has a higer recruiting average;
3) That he is a better offensive mind, because Saban is a complete offensive idiot
4) That Les Miles' worst year was better than Saban's 8-4 and 8-5 seasons at LSU;
4) That even in darkest of times, Les Miles stood by LSU, and Nick Saban LEFT, you fricking moron.


Now, you have any questions.... you fricking moron?
Posted by LSUBCSCHAMPS11
Member since Jan 2009
2003 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 7:58 pm to
all this BS about how we wouldve been undefeated in 2007 with nick.

Just saying is it that much greater to go 14-0 and win the National Championship or go 12-2 and win the national championship. Personally a National Championship is a national championship and I dont really care how we got there, but we did and got business taken care of there just fine with Miles. The Crystal Ball is in Baton Rouge and thats all that really maters, now if we can just get that darn golden boot !
This post was edited on 4/7/09 at 7:59 pm
Posted by windriver
West Monroe/San Diego
Member since Mar 2006
8656 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 7:58 pm to
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No, but with nine seconds to go on the clock, on a hail mary, you would think a defensive genius, who is utterly above blame, would have a FU#@ING safety in the endzone.


Ding Ding Ding.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 7:59 pm to

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Posted by BT4LSU
Could be Anywhere, at Anytime
Member since Feb 2005
3280 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 8:04 pm to
Here's a funny statistic

Rivals Class Averages

Yr Players /Avg bama--- Players/Avg LSU
2007 25 players/3.28 avg 26 players/3.88 avg
2008 32 players/3.79 avg 26 players/3.58 avg
2009 28 players/3.68 avg 24 players/3.79 avg

TOTALS 85 players for bama = 3.58333
TOTALS 76 players for LSU= 3. 750

And this is RIVALS, Bama's blowbuddie site.

Miles has recruited better than Saban over three years..............
you fricking moron.

It's my opinion, and I follow it on FACT.

Get it?
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 8:09 pm to
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This pussy appears not to know me too well..
you got a lot of nerve callin someone a pussy you senile frick, pussy is what your wife has, bring her around me and I'll show you how to satisfy her you limp dick bastard.
Posted by BT4LSU
Could be Anywhere, at Anytime
Member since Feb 2005
3280 posts
Posted on 4/7/09 at 8:15 pm to
Saban's records at LSU

Year Record Embarasssing Losses
2000 8-4 UF 41-9, UAB 13-10
2001 10-3 UF 44-15
2002 8-5 AUB 31-7, Bama 31-0 Texas 35-20
2003 13-1 A 8-4 UF coached Zook team 19-7
2004 9-3 UGA 45-16

This is Nick Saban at his finest.

That is not opinion. THAT is fact.
Even in his 3rd year, Saban was losing games by 30. In his 5th year, it nearly happened again.

Miles:
Embarassing loss
2005 10-2 UGA 34-14 (less than Saban)
2006 11-2 None combined losses 14 points
2007 12-2 None, 2 OT losses
2008 8-5 UF 51-21, UGA 51-38, OM 31-13



So when Saban loses by 20 twice it's a fluke.
When Saban loses by 20 or more... 4 out of the 5 years he was here.. no big deal.

Miles loses by more than 20... ONCE IN 4 YEARS...

like I said, you're a fricking moron.
This post was edited on 4/7/09 at 8:17 pm
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