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re: Liability isn’t an excuse
Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:28 am to Broski
Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:28 am to Broski
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You're right, if a player were to somehow die from coronavirus because a season is played, saying that a school had no liability would be a pretty weak excuse
No one is forcing any athlete to play.
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Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:55 am to MarlboroTiger
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If schools are having students back on campus in the fall, there is zero reason why college football can’t happen. Either it’s safe to have students back on campus or it’s not
Irrelevant argument. Football is an extracurricular activity of the college. Extracurricular activities get canceled all the time for various reasons. The purpose of college is academia, not sports.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:56 am to clamdip
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and why is this? Are you familiar with the death rate of healthy 18-22 year olds from the Rona?
Irrelevant argument as it’s not just about deaths.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:01 am to TigerLunatik
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How would you prove that the school was responsible for the player contracting the virus?
If an outbreak amongst the team happened. Meaning several players had the virus at the same time, it would lend credence to the idea that that is where it was contracted. Remember, this would be settled in a civil case, not a criminal one and jurors tend to be far more willing to reach a guilty (or culpable in this case) decision than they are in criminal courts.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:03 am to Fishhead
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Does anyone think the likelihood of contracting the virus would increase if they play vs if they didn't have football and were just regular students?
Far easier to social distance as regular students. No real reason to “huddle up” or line up face to face inches apart from another student. But again this is irrelevant as sports are extracurricular activities and extracurricular activities get canceled all the time for various reasons.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:17 am to Pelican fan99
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i would say it’s way more likely they get it they are just turned lose with no football. The structure of football and the care they receive makes them way safer
I’m to assume by this argument you are also on board with legalizing prostitution across the board and bring it back to brothels because that’s your argument. Prostitutes (as well as their clients) are far safer when it’s placed in an organized, regulated environment. In fact, with proper testing and condom use being mandatory, you are far less likely to catch an STD in a brothel than you are from any random hookup.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:38 am to Peepdip
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it’s about the fact that this is a relatively new virus that may have long term effects on the organs.
As fatalities and hospitalizations continue to fall there's the new talking point that'll be used to keep fear turned to 11. Like clockwork that will be the only thing talked about in the media now instead of the "deadly" virus.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 4:02 am to GeauxTrain
70% of common colds are Corona viruses.
We also had a SARS outbreak 15 years ago. That was when Fauchi used HCQ on everyone and ended the outbreak.
There is 6 months of data with millions of recoverd people. The Karen's are ignoring the data. 0% death rate in kids. It is so rare that when one finally happens, it's all over the news.
We also had a SARS outbreak 15 years ago. That was when Fauchi used HCQ on everyone and ended the outbreak.
There is 6 months of data with millions of recoverd people. The Karen's are ignoring the data. 0% death rate in kids. It is so rare that when one finally happens, it's all over the news.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:02 am to Peepdip
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it’s about the fact that this is a relatively new virus that may have long term effects on the organs.
please give us a source on this...first ive heard of it and frankly i think you are crock of shite....and this is coming from someone who has had it already
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:14 am to MarlboroTiger
I'm 54 years old and I've been going to work pretty much every day for the past 5 months as have all my co-workers. And if I end up with this heart condition or whatever they have put forward to try to spread fear, I could sue my owner as could any of my co-workers and it would likely close his business down for good as he is a relatively small business in our world.
So I really don't want to hear about liability, we are doing it for the safety of the kids or any other of these agenda driven rationalizations.
Time to learn to live with this, it's here forever and IMHO the kids are safer in the team protocols with the 24/7 medical supervision, testing and all that goes with it than they would be others.
Those hiding behind the safety and "you don't really care about these kids, it's all about money". I care about the kids as much as you do and of course it's about the money. Businesses and schools, jobs and livelihoods could be gone forever, quit pretending that doesn't matter.
So I really don't want to hear about liability, we are doing it for the safety of the kids or any other of these agenda driven rationalizations.
Time to learn to live with this, it's here forever and IMHO the kids are safer in the team protocols with the 24/7 medical supervision, testing and all that goes with it than they would be others.
Those hiding behind the safety and "you don't really care about these kids, it's all about money". I care about the kids as much as you do and of course it's about the money. Businesses and schools, jobs and livelihoods could be gone forever, quit pretending that doesn't matter.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:17 am to MarlboroTiger
It's only about saving face from the SJW twitter mob. Pac-12 and Big-10 of course are the first to cave to them.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:43 am to MarlboroTiger
Not sure if people are as concerned with the mortality of the Athletes as much as them spreading it to more vulnerable
It’d be a real shame if a football player caught the Rona and gave it to his grandmother which in turn caused her death
It’d be a real shame if a football player caught the Rona and gave it to his grandmother which in turn caused her death
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:54 am to SlidellCajun
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Not sure if people are as concerned with the mortality of the Athletes as much as them spreading it to more vulnerable
It’d be a real shame if a football player caught the Rona and gave it to his grandmother which in turn caused her death
What do you thinks gonna happen when you put 30000 kids on campus? Can every kid that catches the virus sue the school? What makes it different for the “student” atheletes?
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:55 am to SlidellCajun
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It’d be a real shame if a football player caught the Rona and gave it to his grandmother which in turn caused her death
A football player from Monroe isn't going home during the season, much less one of our players from out of state.
Secondly, Gran Gran is one of two at risk demographics (immunocompromised being the other) who is actually at risk. Stay home Gran Gran.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:57 am to SlidellCajun
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Not sure if people are as concerned with the mortality of the Athletes as much as them spreading it to more vulnerable It’d be a real shame if a football player caught the Rona and gave it to his grandmother which in turn caused her death
here's the rub, he's not in team protocol, he's at home doing whatever the hell he wants or on campus with no football to play or practice for.
Therefore, he's not tested, but goes to a BBQ for friends or family and gets it. Of course he's asymptomatic like the vast majority of these athletes who have gotten it so doesn't even think to go to the doctor or get tested. In team protocol he would be tested multiple times a week, it would be discovered and he could be quarantined and save grandma's life.
But outside the protocol, he's got it, doesn't know it, goes to see grandma everyday and several others he spreads it to...see how that works?
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:04 am to Gravitiger
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i would say it’s way more likely they get it they are just turned lose with no football. The structure of football and the care they receive makes them way safer
So they won't live in apts with other students, go to class with other students, go to bars with other students, sleep with other students, etc. Sure.
Sports will keep them isolated a few hours a day. Maybe.
I would think that players would make smarter decisions off the field if they were faced with the prospect of testing positive and missing a few games as opposed to just missing a few weeks of practice in the fall with no games on the horizon. The incentive for them to be safe with their personal decisions is there with a season. Also one would think there would be more structure in place with the team with a season as opposed to without one
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:14 am to Broski
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Probably not, but that won't stop a player or family from suing the shite out of the school if he caught it and had real issues with it.
The players can opt out this year, or play. It's the players choice, they aren't being forced to play.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:32 am to Tiger Ugly
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here's the rub, he's not in team protocol, he's at home doing whatever the hell he wants or on campus with no football to play or practice for.
I don't know why people can't see this. I'd rather be in a controlled environment with routine testing and protocols in place.
Schools are only worried about covering their arse. Whatever happens off campus is of no concern to them.
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 7:42 am
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:04 am to Tiger Ugly
True
If they can keep the players corralled in a controlled environment then it could work.
I don’t think that’s what they have planned though
If they can keep the players corralled in a controlled environment then it could work.
I don’t think that’s what they have planned though
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:18 am to Pelican fan99
quote:and of course you're exactly right.
Does anyone think the likelihood of contracting the virus would increase if they play vs if they didn't have football and were just regular students?
But...
Oh the horror! Optics!!
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