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Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:56 am to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:56 am to
Exaggerating the point and turning the argument into something it isn’t. Go figure. You can’t hide anyone anywhere in college. I’ve made that point already. Alex box RF is a difficult position to play. More so than CF especially for Freshmen.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:00 am to
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The whole point of why I started this was because of the OP asked why put a guy there that hasn’t necessarily practiced the position. I just don’t think that it matters as the position is more using your natural instincts and athleticism over being knowledgeable about how to properly play it.


There are a lot of situations that OFers practice. Relays, when to throw behind runners, no doubles defense, wind blowing out, wind blowing in, and even getting use to who is on the field with you all comes into play.
Putting a guy in a position he has never played has its risks no matter what the position is.
In the OP Drost is noted to be practicing in CF. It makes sense because our CFer is hurt and he has shown up at the plate and they are looking to get him some opportunities. But he’d not going to CF because it’s easy to play there, he’s going there because of the injury.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:02 am to
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2 years in college. Before that I was in LF. Played a little catcher and 3B my first year. Also a closer.



Did you really think CF was easier to play than RF?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:03 am to
You’ve got other people repeating that dumb shite lol
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:04 am to
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I’m thinking we should just hide Beloso in CF & let Drost DH



I remember hiding Beau Jordan in LF. Todd McClure there way back when it was gorilla ball. I’ve never thought about hiding a big stick in CF. You?
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:05 am to
No dog in this hunt as i hate you all equally, but ive Played outfield all my life, ive always found it easier to read balls off the bat from cf
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 9:06 am
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:10 am to
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Did you really think CF was easier to play than RF
I meant LF actually. But if I’m being 100% honest, I wasn’t that comfortable in LF. I didn’t play OF in high school. I was mostly a catcher then. A meniscus tear ended that. By the the time I moved to CF, I was much more confident and loved how aggressive I could be on every ball. There wasnt anymore hesitation or guessing. I found it much easier. But that’s anecdotal I know.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:11 am to
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ive always found it easier to read balls off the bat from cf



I agree with Josh.

I’m not saying it’s an easier position, there is definitely more ground to cover, but the read off the bat is easier. If you have a good athlete, CF would not take long to get used to. The issues would be the communication with infielders and the corner outfielders.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:14 am to
In this situation, id imagine crews and drost have similar foot speed, so if close to equal, might as well just have one person trying to get used to a new position instead of two. Plus new guy doesnt have to battle the sun
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:15 am to
My argument is specific to Alex box and a freshman. I said that from the start.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:15 am to
Communication with the infield you have to deal with at any outfield postion
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:17 am to
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Alex box RF is a difficult position to play. More so than CF especially for Freshmen.


So if RF is so tough, why don’t we see young guys beginning their careers in CF and then moving to RF as they gain experience? Why do the top CFers remain in CF their entire career at LSU?

If RF is tougher and for veterans then why isn’t Gio in RF now with Crews in CH?
Why did Watson play CF and Cabrera RF in 2018 and 19?
Why did Dupplantis start his career in RF? Why did they move Deichman from first base to CF instead of to RF even though he had only played infield?

Have they ever “groomed” a CFer at LSU in hopes that he could eventually move to RF as he gained experience?
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 9:30 am
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:19 am to
Yall are arguing difficulty vs skill....for several pages...arguing 2 different things
Posted by deaux
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:19 am to
I feel like you’re intentionally ignoring some of the arguments that have been made above when you ask things like “why isn’t Gio in RF” or “why did Watson play CF with Cabrera in RF”

Just saying
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:21 am to
The left fielder also has to remember to throw the ball to warmup with between innings to the kids in the LF bleachers.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:21 am to
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Communication with the infield you have to deal with at any outfield postion


In CF you have more space, which means more players to deal with

Both corner OF’s, and both middle INF.


Corner OF is so much easier in that regard
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:22 am to
Right fielder as well, thats a tough job, easy to mess up
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:23 am to
Yeah, but you overrule all of them when you want to.
If im calling them off, im not saying, “caling off you mr left field, im calling off you mr shortstop, and you mr second basemen”...im just saying “my ball my ball” either way
So the amount of guys to call off doesnt matter to me
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 9:25 am
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:25 am to
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I meant LF actually. But if I’m being 100% honest, I wasn’t that comfortable in LF. I didn’t play OF in high school. I was mostly a catcher then. A meniscus tear ended that. By the the time I moved to CF, I was much more confident and loved how aggressive I could be on every ball. There wasnt anymore hesitation or guessing. I found it much easier. But that’s anecdotal I know.

Younger players will feel at risk anywhere. I’ve seen kids in HS move from left to right and profit because they could read the ball off a RHed hitters back much better even though most consider RF a tougher position to play because you need a better arm.

If you moved from catcher to CF as you matriculated through school you had to be pretty athletic. You can’t be a fire plug.
I believe Craig Biggio did something similar for the Astros. It’s unusual and to be good you can’t be a stiff. CF in the majors requires a superior talent and that’s why lighter hitting guys can play a lot of years if they can anchor CF.
Posted by UpToPar
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:25 am to
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this situation, id imagine crews and drost have similar foot speed, so if close to equal, might as well just have one person trying to get used to a new position instead of two.


This. CF requires more tools (I.e. speed), but if you have two players with similar speed then CF is not significantly more difficult than RF. If Crews is not significantly faster than Drost then is doesn’t really make sense to move Crews over to CF.
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