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Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:13 am to Nuts
Being as this was the point in the 2003 season where "the greatest team of all time" Oklahoma lost the first of two games, I'm holding off on that. ALOT can change in a conference championship game and a NC game.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:13 am to SlowFlowPro
Bamas run D is better than both those teams and we beat them. No disagreeing that this isn't the BEST TEAM EVER, but your reason is lacking.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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2005 USC O v. 2011 LSU D
We must have posted at the same time. Would be fun to watch!
You gotta include special teams, though, and our offense is not too shabby either, so I think it would be an epic game myself - this year's Tigers versus the 2004 Trojans....
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:15 am to memphis tiger
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Bamas run D is better than both those teams and we beat them.
why?
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but your reason is lacking.
i'm just talking matchups
if you have an elite run D, you can stop this LSU team with our QB/passing issues. bama did it
Bama's offense is mediocre, so if we played a team with a complete/good offense, ON TOP OF the run D issue, we'd have problems. USC 04 and UM 01 were both dominant against the run with a ton of offensive talent (vastly superior QBs/WRs to Bama this year)
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:16 am to geauxjo
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Posted by geauxjo Being as this was the point in the 2003 season where "the greatest team of all time" Oklahoma lost the first of two games, I'm holding off on that. ALOT can change in a conference championship game and a NC game.
I think the team will be ready but good point. As crazy as it sounds, all we have right now is the SEC West banner.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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i'll just keep this simple and say that 2001 Miami or 2004 USC would not have too much trouble with this LSU team
And who did they beat? This is the same argument we heard during the early part of the last decade before the national media realized the superiority of the SEC. You judge these teams based on playing overrated non-SEC competition.
Miami played 1 top ten team and 3 teams ranked in the teens.
USC played 2 top ten teams and one other ranked in the teens.
They never faced an SEC team ,rather, playing overrated big 10 and pac 12 competition.
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 10:19 am
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:18 am to Jake88
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And who did they beat?
yawn
CFB/the SEC is down this year
look at the talent, scheme, and stats of those 2 teams
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:19 am to Shoulderchoke
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'95 Nebraska vs '11 LSU
Against this year's athletes on defense? With Les Miles and Chavis, and time to prepare before the championship game? I like our chances.
ETA - defensive speed makes the difference I think.
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 10:20 am
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:19 am to jpbTiger
We will have to wait until 2020 to compare 2011 LSU to 2001 Miami. I say this because it will take that long to see how much talent was on this LSU team.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:19 am to geauxjo
Yup. and I look at that team and still think its better. No one on our current DL can dominate a game like Lavalais could. Lavalais, Dorsey, Spears, Kyle Williams. Hill. We don't have a better DL than that. Secondary? I think they all made the NFL. Landry, Webster, Jackson, et al. Then the WR's? 03 was definitely better. Henderson, Clayton v. Randle and Beckahm? No contest. I give the edge at RB to 11 team BUT keep in mind you had a healthy AB who DID set the rushing record the next year and a Joseph Addai so I say even. OL? Whitworth, Wilkerson, Peterman just plain better.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:20 am to SlowFlowPro
Im anxious to see how we work Hilliard into the gameplan against Bama.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:20 am to JJ27
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We will have to wait until 2020 to compare 2011 LSU to 2001 Miami. I say this because it will take that long to see how much talent was on this LSU team.
Good point as far as individual talent is concerned.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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if LSU wins out they'll have one of the best seasons in the modern era and the best in the BCS era
but they're not the best team ever
I agree with this, and it's what Chris Low on SEC blog for ESPN said. Lupica sucks and should be ignored.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:22 am to Jake88
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And who did they beat? This is the same argument we heard during the early part of the last decade before the national media realized the superiority of the SEC. You judge these teams based on playing overrated non-SEC competition.
Miami played 1 top ten team and 3 teams ranked in the teens.
USC played 2 top ten teams and one other ranked in the teens.
They never faced an SEC team ,rather, playing overrated big 10 and pac 12 competition.
Holy shite you're being a homer. Look at the NFL talent on the 01 Miami team. You can dispute USC because of what they turned out to be imo. 2001 Miami is still, right now, the best team ever assembled and it's not even close.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:22 am to prplhze2000
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No one on our current DL can dominate a game like Lavalais could.
big sam and mingo CAN, but they don't always do
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:22 am to jlc05
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Im anxious to see how we work Hilliard into the gameplan against Bama.
He'll be a part, but I'm guessing we'll start with a healthy dose of JJ and Michael Ford, since that's what Bama's defense seems to have the most trouble with (see the GA Southern game.....)
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:23 am to ProjectP2294
They would "qualify" to be in the discussion...as Les said in the postgame presser.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:23 am to jpbTiger
if we win out 2004 usc doesnt hold a candle to us. look at their schedule. it was easier and they had 3 or 4 games decided by less than 10 points. 2001 miami does though
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