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Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:04 am to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:04 am to
Right now yes. I'd say after July 6th, maybe 40/35 with a couple more being asked to go JUCO and holding on to 38 for the fall.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:13 am to
Any idea who those casualtities might be?

Is there any precedent for Mainieri asking returning seniors to move on? Guys like Nowak and Moffitt

At first glance guys like moffitt, Reese, nowak, kodros, and dogouhty would be most likely
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 10:16 am
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:13 am to
I can easily see that list dwendling to 37 rather quickly. Not going to throw out my thoughts and name players that I think may be cut loose/move on.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:14 am to
He's done it with JUCO transfers before. Jimmy Dykstra for instance.

I wonder if the Moffitt thing was always a one year deal knowing that his spot was only available because Walker was on the shelf for the year.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87623 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:17 am to
Didn't Walker still count against the number though? I thought Moffitt was a late add mostly due to the pitchers we lost in the draft both recruits and lsu players.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:17 am to
44 is also assuming the best case scenario for everyone (guys like slaughter, duplantis, and caball)

Guess we just have to be patient and see how things shake out after the deadline passes
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:18 am to
quote:

Any idea who those casualtities might be?


That's a dangerous game to play, and is usually left to rantards, who seem to get a kick out of trashing players and coaches.

Look at the list, think of who played/didn't play during a down year, and you can kind of form your own opinion. Also have to take into account some freshman who may see no playing time in their near future and go a different route, so don't want to start calling out players and then they put it together over the summer and end up contributing.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:18 am to
Walker was number 36 out of 35. At least when the roster was full. His scholarship still counted against the 11.7, but his roster spot opened up. That spot, per NCAA rules, was only available to a walk-on.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:19 am to
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I thought Moffitt was a late add mostly due to the pitchers we lost in the draft both recruits and lsu players.
He was. And Taylor Petersen, too.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:20 am to
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He was. And Taylor Petersen, too.


That was more Nowak and Petersen. The Moffitt thing was the very specific Walker deal.

ETA: Well, Petersen was added during the season still, because I remember logging his games the day after they would happen.

ETAA: Broussard was added after the draft due to the third baseman from Chipola signing with the Twins.
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 10:22 am
Posted by ccox11
Member since Sep 2014
1259 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:21 am to
Clay Moffitt, Brandon Nowak, Taylor Petersen, and Will Reese seem like the most obvious 4 guys who will have a hard time being retained.

I doubt Doughty will be let go given the implications with his younger brother.

Maybe the writing is on the wall with Nick Webre but I don't think that he is one of the 9 worst players from that group because I think he is talented enough to start at some point in his career at LSU.

Maybe Jake Slaughter decides he wants to move on, although I hope not and don't think it would be in his best interest.

Assuming no injury casualties (which may not be a safe assumption, I just don't want to project that), I think the other 3-5 "cuts" have to come from the incoming signing class.
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 10:24 am
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:24 am to
What's crazy is that if you take our current roster situation right now, and bring it to this years team, Austin Bain would probably be considered for the chopping block. And he went on to help us big time this season.

That's why I don't like getting into the "so-and-so needs to be cut" scenarios this early.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87623 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Walker was number 36 out of 35. At least when the roster was full. His scholarship still counted against the 11.7, but his roster spot opened up. That spot, per NCAA rules, was only available to a walk-on.
Thanks for the info.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
289827 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:30 am to
Finding roster spots is one thing but aren’t you coming into more difficulty when you’re exchanging a walk on roster spot for a guy you’ve promised scholarship money too? Seems like it would spread thinner than what has been promised to these kids
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:32 am to
quote:

The Brewers also took a couple of prep players who would have gone earlier if not for strong college commitments. Outfielder Elijah Cabell, taken in the 14th round, is expected to go to LSU.

In the 29th round, the Brewers took a flier on shortstop Nander De Sedas, originally expected to go in the first two rounds. Shortly after that announcement, De Dedas posted on Twitter that he was honoring his commitment to Florida State, the reason teams passed on him in the early going.

"Cabell and De Sedas were higher-profile kids," Johnson said. "We obviously knew them well. We took the opportunity that if they decided at a later date they wanted to start their pro careers, we can talk about that. Is it likely? I don't know."

Amateur scouting director Tod Johnson


I edited my list to say he is now likely coming to LSU
Posted by saintsfansmucho
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:32 am to
If Bain would have to be considered being cut under the current scheme of things, what about Gilbert? Should he stick ahead of some of these other prospects?
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
76445 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:33 am to
That's something that we will definitely run into if Cabell comes to campus and Slaughter stays.

It's had to figure out from the outside because we don't know which guys are on scholarship and which ones aren't.

We know Doughty and Moffitt weren't. But who the other ones were, we have no idea. I have some reasonable guesses, but they're nothing more than guesses.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289827 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:34 am to
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and is usually left to rantards,


Says the dude that went on for pages the other day talking about Feducci & Latz, 2 made up names on our baseball team
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:37 am to
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If Bain would have to be considered being cut under the current scheme of things, what about Gilbert? Should he stick ahead of some of these other prospects?


Gilbert had pitching success at LSU. Bain, not as much.

Maybe you missing my point. Last year at this time nobody knew Bain was going to be a real option as a fielder/hitter (I know he was recruited as both, but had not really be thought of as a real option). So, if we were in our current situation, with last years Bain, he would possibly be considered as a player to cut. And we would have been wrong.
Posted by ccox11
Member since Sep 2014
1259 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:38 am to
quote:

What's crazy is that if you take our current roster situation right now, and bring it to this years team, Austin Bain would probably be considered for the chopping block. And he went on to help us big time this season.

That's why I don't like getting into the "so-and-so needs to be cut" scenarios this early.


I disagree. I think Caleb Gilbert is the most similar comparison to Austin Bain since both are senior pitchers who had shown a lot of ability at times during their first 3 seasons but had also struggled quite a bit much of the time. I don't think you cut a pitcher who has shown to have ability as much as those guys had over 3 seasons. I don't think Gilbert would be cut from this group, although he could decide to go somewhere else to guarantee himself a spot in a starting rotation in an attempt to get drafted.

As weird as it sounds, I don't think you cut guys who have played poorly because there is a reason why they played (especially when they played well at times). You cut guys who haven't played at all.

ETA: obviously somebody else already brought this up while I was typing. And I think you are wrong to say Bain hadn't had success pitching during his first 3 years at LSU.
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 10:42 am
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