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Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:09 pm to ligerbait
Yea...I was pissed an in a hurry...but the point gets accross
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:12 pm to josh336
quote:I found this ironic. The only closed minded one is the author. Besides, aren't there more important issues to be concerned with? Get a grip
In stark contrast to the outdated and closed minded approach of both the University of Memphis and LSU
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:14 pm to DropaDeuce
Sorry to ask again, but does Southern really have a live jaguar mascot?
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:16 pm to ligerbait
quote:
PETA hates us too
And they REALLY hate us haha
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:16 pm to ligerbait
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a live jaguar is the mascot of Southern University and A&M College
How have I never heard of this?
Didn't Lacumba die? Did they get another one?
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:17 pm to lsursb
Lacoomba (sp?) has took the old dirt nap a few years back and was never replaced.
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:19 pm to lsursb
I love when PETA cant get there way I love when they try to find some stupid rule as to why somone cant do something also PETA and The WWF which was recently World Wrestling Federation pisses me off because why the hell did they have to tell the WWF they couldnt use that abbreveation also Missouri is the only college out of Aubrun and Clemson that have ever used a live tiger to my knowledge and they stopped in 1925 and the reason Auburn doesnt is because they have their "war eagle"
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:20 pm to tigers9898
yeah, why didn't the author harp on the war eagle thing?
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:21 pm to josh336
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yeah, why didn't the author harp on the war eagle thing?
Good point
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:26 pm to ligerbait
If you can't keep a domesticated Tiger in a controlled, new and huge habitat, then outlaw all zoos.
Load up all the trucks, take them to their native countries, and release all of them.
PETA... about as useful as genital herpes.
Load up all the trucks, take them to their native countries, and release all of them.
PETA... about as useful as genital herpes.
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:28 pm to josh336
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It is similarly no surprise that LSU’s tiger is agitated and refusing to attend games.
I hate PETA, but I do believe that LSU had trouble getting Mike to get in his cage a few times last year. Maybe b/c he's still pretty young?
Hopefully, that won't be the case this season. Of course, that doesn't mean he's unhappy at LSU.
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:28 pm to Barry Badrinath
Someone proof read and fact check this for me please:
Mr. Jaynes,
I am writing in response to the article that was posted on DissidentVoice.org regarding your views on big cats as college mascots. I cannot comment on the University of Memphis’ cat, but I’d invite you to do some shred of research before writing such an incendiary article. Have you seen Mike VI’s habitat? Have you ever visited it? You write that “All university cat mascots should be retired immediately to one of the nine TAOS facilities in the United States.” Why no call to have all cats currently housed at places like Great Cats of Indiana where Mike VI was obtained from to be placed in a TAOS facility? Why are you targeting a miniscule percentage of captive big cats in the United States, when a much larger number are living in deplorable conditions? Mike VI may very well be one of the most well cared for animals in the United States. His habitat is simply unbelievable, and I have never seen a more active, responsive, “happier looking” animal in any zoo, wildlife refuge, or other habitat.
As far as Mike VI being “agitated and refusing to attend games,” isn’t that an exceedingly clear indication that he is well taken care of? He’s not being forced to do anything, and if he doesn’t want to occupy his travel cage to go to the football game, he simply doesn’t.
You also state that “Slavery was once a grand tradition in this country as was racism and women refusing to leave abusive husbands.” How can you possibly compare these things to LSU having a well cared for and happy tiger? I wasn’t aware that Mike VI was ripped from his homeland (he was bred in captivity), forced to work in a cotton field, and then return home to have racial slurs flung at him, have his husband beat him, and then be lynched. If this is the case, please let me know.
I don’t expect a rational or reasonable response to this e-mail. Any time I attempt to get into a debate with an “animal advocate” I find myself on the receiving end of numerous, baseless accusations and illogical arguments. I simply ask that you not lump LSU's treatment of Mike VI in with anything that anyone else is doing.
Mr. Jaynes,
I am writing in response to the article that was posted on DissidentVoice.org regarding your views on big cats as college mascots. I cannot comment on the University of Memphis’ cat, but I’d invite you to do some shred of research before writing such an incendiary article. Have you seen Mike VI’s habitat? Have you ever visited it? You write that “All university cat mascots should be retired immediately to one of the nine TAOS facilities in the United States.” Why no call to have all cats currently housed at places like Great Cats of Indiana where Mike VI was obtained from to be placed in a TAOS facility? Why are you targeting a miniscule percentage of captive big cats in the United States, when a much larger number are living in deplorable conditions? Mike VI may very well be one of the most well cared for animals in the United States. His habitat is simply unbelievable, and I have never seen a more active, responsive, “happier looking” animal in any zoo, wildlife refuge, or other habitat.
As far as Mike VI being “agitated and refusing to attend games,” isn’t that an exceedingly clear indication that he is well taken care of? He’s not being forced to do anything, and if he doesn’t want to occupy his travel cage to go to the football game, he simply doesn’t.
You also state that “Slavery was once a grand tradition in this country as was racism and women refusing to leave abusive husbands.” How can you possibly compare these things to LSU having a well cared for and happy tiger? I wasn’t aware that Mike VI was ripped from his homeland (he was bred in captivity), forced to work in a cotton field, and then return home to have racial slurs flung at him, have his husband beat him, and then be lynched. If this is the case, please let me know.
I don’t expect a rational or reasonable response to this e-mail. Any time I attempt to get into a debate with an “animal advocate” I find myself on the receiving end of numerous, baseless accusations and illogical arguments. I simply ask that you not lump LSU's treatment of Mike VI in with anything that anyone else is doing.
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:28 pm to mikethetiger
This is the reality of tigers in the wild.
This is Mike The Tiger.
Which is more humane and if you were a tiger, which would you choose?
This is Mike The Tiger.
Which is more humane and if you were a tiger, which would you choose?
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:31 pm to josh336
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Auburn, Clemson, and the University of Missouri have pledged to never use live tiger mascots
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yeah, why didn't the author harp on the war eagle thing?
Thank you!!!
Are we to assume that ALL of the other live mascots out there are ok, just not tigers? I'm not sure I follow this ?logic?
Also, It wasn't mentioned that Mike VI's habitat is superior to most zoo's. Compare it to the BR Zoo. No comparison. Maybe we should shut down all the zoo's too. Oh, wait a minute, aren't the zoos responsible for keeping some species from going extinct. I see no difference in situations. I'm pretty sure Mike doesn't care if there are other animal habitats nextdoor.
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:34 pm to mikethetiger
You should start up a organization, and use that as your ad campaign. Call it PAPETA
People Against PETA
Put above the first picture:
"If you contributed to PETA in the past, you killed me.
Thanks so much,
Tony"
People Against PETA
Put above the first picture:
"If you contributed to PETA in the past, you killed me.
Thanks so much,
Tony"
This post was edited on 3/11/09 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:39 pm to mikethetiger
I wrote a comment
"This is why the majority of intelligent people in the US think PETA is a joke. Instead of going after the true cases of animal abuse and neglect they are going after school who's mascots have a higher life expectancy and live a better life than the ones in the zoos do.
Why doesn't PETA get their celebrities interested in going after people who actually treat animals cruelly and not the ones whom have the animals best interest at heart."
I think that gets the point across without being vulgar or any other of the adjectives they used
"This is why the majority of intelligent people in the US think PETA is a joke. Instead of going after the true cases of animal abuse and neglect they are going after school who's mascots have a higher life expectancy and live a better life than the ones in the zoos do.
Why doesn't PETA get their celebrities interested in going after people who actually treat animals cruelly and not the ones whom have the animals best interest at heart."
I think that gets the point across without being vulgar or any other of the adjectives they used
This post was edited on 3/11/09 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:47 pm to Charlie Scene
Here's the response I posted:
You claim that LSU is “having serious problems” with Mike VI, but where is your evidence supporting that claim? I’m looking at Mike VI’s $3.2 million, 15,000 square foot habitat right now, and he looks as healthy and happy as ever.
In your article, you try your best to make it sound as if Mike VI lives in squalor, under the relentless abuse of taskmasters whipping him into submission but that’s far from the case. Mike is cared for by a team of almost 20 veterinarians and vet school students, all of whom are deeply committed to the safety and well-being of Mike VI. Want proof? Mike VI’s predecessor, Mike V, lived for SEVENTEEN YEARS. What’s the average life span of a tiger in wild? Six years. If he’s lucky.
Mike VI isn’t forced to appear at football games… and NEVER appears at basketball games. If Mike doesn’t want to get in the cage, Mike stays in his habitat. Period. When he does make an appearance at the games, he stays no more than an hour before returning to his home.
And speaking of home, what makes you think your TAOS facilities could do a better job of caring for Mike than LSU could? He would still be in captivity, all the same as though he were at LSU. Honestly, I see no difference. But your lack of trust in LSU is hardly surprising, considering you deem our community “hateful” and “barely literate.” Good thing I’m barely literate enough to point out that your article is… barely accurate.
But don’t take my word for it. Visit mikethetiger.com. Look at the pictures. Judge for yourself. Does the tiger look abused, malcontent or poorly cared for? Does he look unhappy? Hell, you can even look in on his habitat via live webcam. Check in any time you like, and tell me that animal is suffering. You would be wrong.
I will agree with you on one point: yes, LSU can and should be doing more to aggressively fund and promote tiger conservation in the wild. We are the most high-profile collegiate “Tigers” in the world, and it’s a shame that we haven’t joined in with Auburn, Clemson and Missouri in that effort.
But don’t you dare imply or suggest that LSU doesn’t treat Mike humanely and with respect. Not without proof. And if you find proof, the LSU community wants to see it… because I guarantee that the person who harms Mike may not make it out of town alive. I’m not exaggerating, either.
You might think Mike could be better cared for somewhere else, but I doubt it. The bottom line is that captivity is captivity. It is no more noble to keep your dog or cat in your home or backyard than it is for LSU to keep Mike VI in a habitat the size… and quality… of a mansion.
You claim that LSU is “having serious problems” with Mike VI, but where is your evidence supporting that claim? I’m looking at Mike VI’s $3.2 million, 15,000 square foot habitat right now, and he looks as healthy and happy as ever.
In your article, you try your best to make it sound as if Mike VI lives in squalor, under the relentless abuse of taskmasters whipping him into submission but that’s far from the case. Mike is cared for by a team of almost 20 veterinarians and vet school students, all of whom are deeply committed to the safety and well-being of Mike VI. Want proof? Mike VI’s predecessor, Mike V, lived for SEVENTEEN YEARS. What’s the average life span of a tiger in wild? Six years. If he’s lucky.
Mike VI isn’t forced to appear at football games… and NEVER appears at basketball games. If Mike doesn’t want to get in the cage, Mike stays in his habitat. Period. When he does make an appearance at the games, he stays no more than an hour before returning to his home.
And speaking of home, what makes you think your TAOS facilities could do a better job of caring for Mike than LSU could? He would still be in captivity, all the same as though he were at LSU. Honestly, I see no difference. But your lack of trust in LSU is hardly surprising, considering you deem our community “hateful” and “barely literate.” Good thing I’m barely literate enough to point out that your article is… barely accurate.
But don’t take my word for it. Visit mikethetiger.com. Look at the pictures. Judge for yourself. Does the tiger look abused, malcontent or poorly cared for? Does he look unhappy? Hell, you can even look in on his habitat via live webcam. Check in any time you like, and tell me that animal is suffering. You would be wrong.
I will agree with you on one point: yes, LSU can and should be doing more to aggressively fund and promote tiger conservation in the wild. We are the most high-profile collegiate “Tigers” in the world, and it’s a shame that we haven’t joined in with Auburn, Clemson and Missouri in that effort.
But don’t you dare imply or suggest that LSU doesn’t treat Mike humanely and with respect. Not without proof. And if you find proof, the LSU community wants to see it… because I guarantee that the person who harms Mike may not make it out of town alive. I’m not exaggerating, either.
You might think Mike could be better cared for somewhere else, but I doubt it. The bottom line is that captivity is captivity. It is no more noble to keep your dog or cat in your home or backyard than it is for LSU to keep Mike VI in a habitat the size… and quality… of a mansion.
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:51 pm to SpqrTiger
Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:53 pm to SpqrTiger
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SpqrTiger
quote:both good responses
Schwartz
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