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Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:43 pm to
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:43 pm to
I love how he claims it is all about college production and when presented with the stats that show production he plays the amateur scout card and wants to talk about projectability, body type, velocity, etc.
Posted by WestCoastTigah
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Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:44 pm to
Yeah Mainieri's opinion on different subjects has influenced my views of course.
Posted by clownbaby
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Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:45 pm to
Jonathon Papelbon was the closer at Moo State. Also, Brian Morgato will be a cloer in the Majors
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

I concede to Huston Street


That's mighty big of you considering it's impossible for any intelligent person to argue.

Of course, you have said that Ott was unproven and hadn't done anything in big games so......
Posted by WestCoastTigah
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Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:45 pm to
I have always been talking about that stuff. You can look around page one when I was talking about intangibles.
Posted by WestCoastTigah
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Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:47 pm to
Ott is unproven he was just riding on the wave of a championship team. But as I have said he he can duplicate his results this season I am willing to change my mind on the matter because then he will be proven.
Posted by clownbaby
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Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:47 pm to
Brain Wilson was a reliever
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30772 posts
Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

I have always been talking about that stuff. You can look around page one when I was talking about intangibles.


No, I'm pretty sure you're just confused. You are talking about different things at different times throughout the thread, it just depends on what argument is trumping your's at the time.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

Ott is unproven he was just riding on the wave of a championship team.


16 saves in one season is unproven? That's absurd.
Posted by clownbaby
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Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:49 pm to
Casey Weathers was a closer at Vandy and if it wasnt for shoulder problems would be in the majors
Posted by WestCoastTigah
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Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:50 pm to
Read farther back I attribute his success more to Micah and the lineup we had.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
76242 posts
Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:50 pm to
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Casey Weathers was a closer at Vandy and if it wasnt for shoulder problems would be in the majors


yep, and he didn't even pitch until he got to JUCO, I guess he has a dead-end career too.
Posted by WestCoastTigah
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:51 pm to
His career is effectively dead yes.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:52 pm to
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the lineup we had


Umm, can you explain to me how the hitters made Ott a good closer? Obviously Gibbs had some part, but Ott is pretty fricking good.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62494 posts
Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:52 pm to
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16 saves in one season is unproven? That's absurd.


6th overall in the NCAA last year. Obviously, he's unproven.
Posted by clownbaby
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Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:53 pm to
Joe Nathan was a SS at a D-3 college but after throwing a side session was drafted as a closer. Carlos Marmol came up as a catcher. Do you need me to keep going or do you want to go ahead and concede?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62494 posts
Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

Read farther back I attribute his success more to Micah


Micah was obviously responsible for the strikeouts...even though he doesn't call pitches.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
76242 posts
Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:55 pm to
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6th overall in the NCAA last year. Obviously, he's unproven.


I posted the list of returning career stat leaders the other day, and Ott was almost in the top 10 in saves after one season.
Posted by WestCoastTigah
Member since Feb 2010
430 posts
Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:56 pm to
Micah managed the kid better than anyone could have. That is straight from the man himself Mainieri. Secondly the lineup allowed him to be in that position and also gave him the confidence tonpitch in those situations knowing that they would back him up in case he blew the save. That allowed Ott to go right after hitters.
This post was edited on 2/14/10 at 5:57 pm
Posted by clownbaby
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Posted on 2/14/10 at 5:56 pm to
He and I already went over this last night...he doesnt get it
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