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Posted on 10/14/12 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by Stevo
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Posted on 10/14/12 at 4:24 pm to
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It was just a poor throw.


agreed, but he did not look wide open to me. Maybe it's just me.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62519 posts
Posted on 10/14/12 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

The call for jump ball for Jacobs was a great call


If that was a great call, then I'm missing something with respect to Jacobs.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/14/12 at 4:37 pm to
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agree it was a bad throw, but he wasn't open.


Yes he was. A back shoulder throw or an accurate lob would have been a TD.
Posted by Stevo
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Posted on 10/14/12 at 4:41 pm to
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A back shoulder throw or an accurate lob would have been a TD.


either of these would have given us a chance for a TD, but my point is that the defender was in between the QB and the TE. There was a small window for completion, but to me that is not a pass we ask Zack to complete at this point. Only Danny Wuerffel made those look easy. They're not.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 10/14/12 at 4:42 pm to
The playcalling has been okay. It's the execution that has to get better. I love the call with the fade to Jacobs, but Shaq couldn't even catch that.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37124 posts
Posted on 10/14/12 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

play action up middle and one of two option...

bootleg and throw to TE


Ran this vs florida. Got nothing

quote:

pitch to RB around corner


Used to run this all the time-fake fb dive pitch to ford to the corner...not sure what happened to it-it was an obvious tendency (if ford was in near the goalline we ran this play every time it seemed like) but it worked.
Posted by G4LSU
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Posted on 10/14/12 at 4:46 pm to
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 10/14/12 at 4:47 pm to
Thank you.
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 10/14/12 at 5:01 pm to
quote:


either of these would have given us a chance for a TD, but my point is that the defender was in between the QB and the TE. There was a small window for completion, but to me that is not a pass we ask Zack to complete at this point. Only Danny Wuerffel made those look easy. They're not.


Like I said earlier. We caught USCe completely off guard expecting Jacobs to be a blocker. I assume LSU doesn't attempt this if they are not confident in Jacobs as a receiver. The separation was there.
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10563 posts
Posted on 10/14/12 at 5:03 pm to
Fade routes aren't even about being "open", QB just gets the ball and throws to the corner of the endzone where the DB can't get to it. A great pass beats great coverage every time
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 10/14/12 at 5:04 pm to
That is pretty damn open. He had 3 steps on that guy.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 10/14/12 at 5:05 pm to
The size differential alone gets the TD. Jacobs has freakish size. There is no corner or safety who can stop that play when it is thrown correctly.
Posted by lsutigertalk
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Posted on 10/14/12 at 5:11 pm to
I especially liked the ultra conservative set up for the field goal series after Eric Reid intercept the pass.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 10/14/12 at 5:13 pm to
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I especially liked the ultra conservative set up for the field goal series after Eric Reid intercept the pass.



Honestly, it worried me for a minute. South Carolina's D was gassed. I was kind of hoping we would use Ford at the edge as a dagger, but Les is the boss for a reason.
Posted by lsutigertalk
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Posted on 10/14/12 at 5:41 pm to
I really have enough of settling for field goals and terrible play calling. We have been gashing the run to the outside all game and all we need is 1 first down so we can kneel the football. What do we do? Run up the middle 3 times and punt away. Why are we trying to give them the ball back?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/14/12 at 5:42 pm to
zone coverage works a little better there for sure. A 5 yard out route against man coverage is fairly easy to complete
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 10/14/12 at 5:47 pm to
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quote: lay off the wr's. catching balls that are behind you 75% of the time are not that easy.


If the pass hits you in both of your palms it doesn't matter if its high, low ,or behind you. You should catch that ball.
Also the wr have dropped easy passes that are on the money. That's execution. A div1 wr coach isn't Practicing technique during the middle of the season.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/14/12 at 6:05 pm to
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the playcalling in the redzone (more specifically within the 10 yard line) has been horrendous


6 TDs, 4 ints, and a passing efficiency that ranks bout #70 in the nation doesn't scream out have "faith in our QB to not turn the ball over". imo

Maybe the staff has seen something at practice and in the game that has cause them to pull back in RZ play calling.

I don't know for sure, but I'm thinking the staff probably has a handle on what the O can do best in the RZ.

Posted by dtrack22
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/14/12 at 6:20 pm to
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S. Carolina's play to score the first touchdown was fantastic. I'm still trying to figure how to scheme to stop it.




Starts with #6 alignment. It depends on where your help is before you can decide which side of the WR you want to shade, but the DB needs to get out of the endzone and right up to the line of scrimmage.

You can't switch any route combo this close to the goaline, so you need to get on the WR's hip right away. Punching with your off hand would also help slow down Sanders enough to disrupt the overall timing of the route and may be enough to stop this play all by itself. Still, if you don't press and there isn't any separation when Sanders makes his break, all you have to do is come underneath the route as you carry it towards the sideline and force the QB to thrown it perfectly to the WR's outside, upfield shoulder.

Sometimes the QB makes the throw and there isn't much you can do. But #6 gave himself ZERO chance of making a play on the WR or the ball.
This post was edited on 10/14/12 at 6:22 pm
Posted by JaxTigah
Jackson, MS
Member since Dec 2009
1499 posts
Posted on 10/14/12 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

I really have enough of settling for field goals and terrible play calling. We have been gashing the run to the outside all game and all we need is 1 first down so we can kneel the football. What do we do? Run up the middle 3 times and punt away. Why are we trying to give them the ball back?



Didn't we score on our previous series with a run up the middle?
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