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Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by burke985
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:03 pm to
Watching the spring game replay also and i honestly do not see a qb competition , BH is over and above better than Anthony Jennings ever will be in this game at that point in time. Les is either playing the media or has a severe case of tardedness which we all know may be possible.
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Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:06 pm to
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Posted by logjamming
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:09 pm to
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Watching the spring game replay also and i honestly do not see a qb competition , BH is over and above better than Anthony Jennings ever will be in this game at that point in time. Les is either playing the media or has a severe case of tardedness which we all know may be possible.



I don't like buying into the spring game as an indicator, but no one, not even Les, would dispute that Harris has the higher ceiling.


The dilemma at LSU under Les is that he's not worried that much of having the next dynamic passer--he wants someone who can play within the system, limit mistakes, and move the chains on 3rd down. There is nothing wrong with this line of thinking.

The problem is that when Jennings isn't able to do this, you might as well go with Harris. He's going to make the same mistakes as Jennings, but at least you give yourself a shot of making some plays.
Posted by 0jersey
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:13 pm to
The major issue I see with the Miles tenure is poor backup QB preparation. He has never taken advantage of the easy games on the schedule to adequately prepare the backups.
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Posted by burke985
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:15 pm to
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The dilemma at LSU under Les is that he's not worried that much of having the next dynamic passer--he wants someone who can play within the system, limit mistakes, and move the chains on 3rd down. There is nothing wrong with this line of thinking


Right but times change and Les is going to have to step outside of his box to get this offense to see its fullest potential. We could be scary good on offense with Harris in there playing to his potenial we've basically seen everything jennings has to offer i see no change in him from last season in this game.
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Posted by LSUGrad9295
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 5:50 pm to
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Harris has the talent and higher ceiling


You know this how?


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Geaux tigas


Who are the tigas?
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 5:54 pm to
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Les is either playing the media or has a severe case of tardedness which we all know may be possible.


or you have no idea what the hell you're talking about
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 5:57 pm to
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I think this will be reminiscent of the Jeremy Hill "suspension". Won't play vs McNeese but will be available if needed for the State game. Then the rest of the season plays itself out.



Yeah but Jeremy hill was the best back and it was obvious.

less so in this case.
Posted by GermantownTiger
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:03 pm to
Lsugrad9295

Because I can watch football and see who's better and have heard around 50 experts all say Harris has the higher ceiling
Posted by Mattwells90
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:20 pm to
Which brings me to my consistent point about that game. LSU didn't have a QB on roster that could have won that game. Neither Lee nor Jefferson could have done it.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:50 pm to
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Lee would have more than likely performed much worse



You have NO way of knowing this.... A couple long passes would have backed up the Bama D.. Not saying he would have won the game or anything... But we all know you hate LEE and love JJ... BTW GFY........



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It would have been Colt Brennan vs UGA Sugar Bowl bad.


Since you know it all....How about the powerball #'s for sat night.........
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:55 pm to
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LSU didn't have a QB on roster that could have won that game. Neither Lee nor Jefferson could have done it.


Frankly I thought the only hope LSU had would have been to completely go underground during practice and start Mettenberger. Saban was completely ready for JJ and the gameplan he typically ran.
Posted by chilge1
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:01 pm to
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A couple long passes would have backed up the Bama D.


I have a hard time believing that anything short of JaMarcus Russell in his junior year would have had any success at attempting to throw the ball downfield in that game. They had three future 1st Rd. picks in their secondary... to cover Reuben Randle.

With no threat of a passing game, Upshaw and Hightower were able to overpower our unheralded offensive line and harass our QB all night. The fact is, their defense was more talented than our offense that year, and it wasn't even remotely close.

DE - Quinton Dial, 5th Rd.
DT - Josh Chapman, 5th Rd.
DT - Jesse Williams, 5th Rd.

LB - Courtney Upshaw, 2nd Rd.
LB - Dont'a Hightower, 1st Rd.
LB - Nico Johnson, 4th Rd.

CB - DeQuan Menzie, 5th Rd.
CB - Dee Milliner, 1st Rd.
CB - Dre Kirkpatrick, 1st Rd.
S - Mark Barron, 1st Rd.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:22 pm to
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4. Jennings had one of the worst years in LSU history.


Keep the whole picture in sight. BTW, I support BH for starter but AJ was only half the problem last season. Dural said same thing a few days ago. The receiving corps last year was terrible to go along with QB's that were not so good either. All of it I chalk up to gross inexperience.

You don't go from 3000 yd passer two 1000 yd receivers and a 1000 yd rusher in the same backfield to shite because your scheme sucks.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:30 pm to
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I have a hard time believing that anything short of JaMarcus Russell in his junior year would have had any success at attempting to throw the ball downfield in that game.


Disagree. There was one of the wannabe Rant journalists that did a film study of that game and showed that JJ just had a horrible day and opportunities were there. He showed that the first two offensive play LSU ran in the second half both should have scored TD's but JJ missed em. The first play was a throw to OBJ down the right side and Safety Robert Lester overran the play and fell down but JJ threw the ball over the receivers head. The second play was just about the same play and OBJ caught it for a 19 yd game and a FD. Herbie even tele-strated it and showed what a great play it was and everybody was hooping here we go. On that play Deangelo Peterson was naked 20 yds down the center of the field with busted coverage and nobody within 20 yds of him - JJ didn't see him because he never looked off his primary receiver.
Posted by chilge1
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:35 pm to
Hard to go through your progressions when a blitzing LB goes completely unimpeded. You can't make the throws if you can't even plant your feet.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:40 pm to
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Hard to go through your progressions when a blitzing LB goes completely unimpeded. You can't make the throws if you can't even plant your feet.


agree but on that second play he had a containment rush only and in fact Bama's plan was to hem up JJ and make him throw it rather than chase him around the field like they did in Tusc.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29260 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:54 pm to
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You have NO way of knowing this.... A couple long passes would have backed up the Bama D.. Not saying he would have won the game or anything... But we all know you hate LEE and love JJ... BTW GFY........



!!! You really believe that don't you? Bless ya heart

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Since you know it all....How about the powerball #'s for sat night.........


Look, what I said was A LOT more likely to happen than what you said.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:12 pm to
I don't think anyone outside of Les and Cam know who will start against Mcneese, and hell, they might not even know yet. That being said, whether it's AJ or BH, when is the last time we've opened up the playbook and aired it out against one of these smaller schools just playing for a payday...? You know Les is gonna go out and "not show MSU the playbook." If it's BH, I would agree with holding some things under the curtain, but there's enough film out there on AJ that I don't think it would matter what we do against Mcneese(if he starts).
Posted by km
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5653 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:53 pm to
The question is: How much practice time can Jennings get before the season starts. We know he's in the film room but that hasn't helped him thus far. I still say Miles and our OC have always put our QBs in situations where the probability of failure is very high. i.e. 3rd and 8, 3rd and 11 with a 2 receiver route.
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