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re: Rabalais Nails it on SEC Scheduling
Posted on 12/29/11 at 9:41 am to Obi-Wan Tiger
Posted on 12/29/11 at 9:41 am to Obi-Wan Tiger
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well, to have a true conference they NEED to play occasionally...
Hey dipshit, they still will. It'll just have to be every 5 years or so. At what point in this conversation did you decide to not get that? They will just have to rotate, like everyone else. The 'rivalry' between ATM and Mizz is, well, nonexistent. They are the newcomers anyway and will have to deal with it.
ATM is a natural rival with Arky and LSU before Mizz.
Moving Bama and Auburn to the East is a shitty, shitty idea. And only Rabalais could come up with is. Those that agree with him are doomed to suck at their job, like he does.
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Posted on 12/29/11 at 9:46 am to GFunk
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Alabama & Tennessee would choose each other every single year over every other opponent. Because of that, & to a lesser extent the Auburn/Georgia rivalry/tradition game, if the SEC keeps these four programs across the aisle from a divisional standpoint, they will ALWAYS agitate for a permanent cross-divisional opponent.
I know that. That is why I believe Missou will be in the east and a&m in the west. Nothing will change with the common E VS W opponent. AtM and Missou will be common opponents keeping the big 12 teams playing.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 9:50 am to Topwater Trout
What I don't get is why can't we do rotating opponents for everyone except AU&GA and Bama&Tenn? You can grant that by allowing for rival schools to petition for permanent opponents.
Isn't that fair for everyone? Everyone gets what they want.
Isn't that fair for everyone? Everyone gets what they want.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 9:50 am to dstone12
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Hey dipshit, they still will.
Relax guy...it's a discussion, not a jr high catfight.
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It'll just have to be every 5 years or so. At what point in this conversation did you decide to not get that?
how exactly can you have a permanent opponent and rotate the other 6 home and home and play each other every 5 years with an 8 game conference slate? the math doesn't work and Rabalais laid that out. Now if you're talking of staggering the home and home dates or playing a 9 game schedule, that's a different animal.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 9:50 am to Topwater Trout
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That is why I believe Missou will be in the east and a&m in the west. Nothing will change with the common E VS W opponent
I agree here,
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AtM and Missou will be common opponents keeping the big 12 teams playing.
Just not here.
Arky and Mizz are a much better common cross division rivalry, than Arky vs USCe...which is the current way.
The key is to keep ATM and Arky in the same division, but to set up a border game between Arky and Mizz. ATM and Mizz wasn't even a rivalry in the Big 12....so why force it.
ATMs biggest SEC rivals will be LSU and Arky. So don't force Mizz, just switch USCe with Mizz. That way the more natural rival of Arky and Mizz can take place.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 9:51 am to RealityTiger
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I agree with his point of taking the permanent off and adding another conference game. It would not kill LSU to take Idaho, North Texas, or Towson off the schedule. Hell, Washington might even be bad on SOS for next year.
Disagree. Quit catering to Alabama. But the SEC will continue to cater to Bama as long as the SEC offices are in AL. Get the office rotating again as it used to do. That way everyone working for the SEC wouldn't always be AL residents by birth or choice. Refs living in AL have to go home after the game they call and if the don't call a game AL's way I sure they catch hell. No one in AL remebers the one sided officiating in the 2009 game but all think they were robbed by Reid's interception. At least the league responded to AL complaints. In 2009 they never responded to LSU's complaints.
I agree with his point of taking the permanent off and adding another conference game. It would not kill LSU to take Idaho, North Texas, or Towson off the schedule. Hell, Washington might even be bad on SOS for next year.
Disagree. Quit catering to Alabama. But the SEC will continue to cater to Bama as long as the SEC offices are in AL. Get the office rotating again as it used to do. That way everyone working for the SEC wouldn't always be AL residents by birth or choice. Refs living in AL have to go home after the game they call and if the don't call a game AL's way I sure they catch hell. No one in AL remebers the one sided officiating in the 2009 game but all think they were robbed by Reid's interception. At least the league responded to AL complaints. In 2009 they never responded to LSU's complaints.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 9:51 am to Kingpenm3
Auburn has been advocating moving themselves to the East, putting Mizzou in the West, and let the one permanent cross-divisional game stand.
What'd that mean is that Bama-Tenn stays in place, but Bama-Auburn would not. Auburn seems fine with that. Bama doesn't.
Bama is saying they don't like it because it'd give Auburn an unfair advantage for eastern area recruits -- but Auburn already plays UGA every year, so the only advantage is playing in G'ville every other year and I guess getting more exposure to South Carolina talent. I call BS.
That other idea of doing away with divisions is interesting, but would then dilute the late regular season. What is Bama/Aub are undefeated going into the Iron Bowl? That game wouldn't be for much if they already knew they'd play again the following week for the SEC title.
Personally, I think the best solution is to do away with cross-divisional permanent rivalries, but we all know Bama will do its best to wag the dog.
In reality, we will probably be stuck with what they went with this year -- Mizzou to the East. Keep the permanent cross-div game, and get ready to play at UGA and UK and S.Carolina once a decade.
What'd that mean is that Bama-Tenn stays in place, but Bama-Auburn would not. Auburn seems fine with that. Bama doesn't.
Bama is saying they don't like it because it'd give Auburn an unfair advantage for eastern area recruits -- but Auburn already plays UGA every year, so the only advantage is playing in G'ville every other year and I guess getting more exposure to South Carolina talent. I call BS.
That other idea of doing away with divisions is interesting, but would then dilute the late regular season. What is Bama/Aub are undefeated going into the Iron Bowl? That game wouldn't be for much if they already knew they'd play again the following week for the SEC title.
Personally, I think the best solution is to do away with cross-divisional permanent rivalries, but we all know Bama will do its best to wag the dog.
In reality, we will probably be stuck with what they went with this year -- Mizzou to the East. Keep the permanent cross-div game, and get ready to play at UGA and UK and S.Carolina once a decade.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 9:53 am to dstone12
quote:yeah, it is not a viable option. You can't have 5 of the "big 6" in SEC history in the East, and LSU in the West.
Moving Bama and Auburn to the East is a shitty, shitty idea. And only Rabalais could come up with is. Those that agree with him are doomed to suck at their job, like he does.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 9:54 am to Tigercat
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Isn't that fair for everyone? Everyone gets what they want.
I guess if the other teams agreed it would be.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 9:56 am to dstone12
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Arky and Mizz are a much better common cross division rivalry, than Arky vs USCe...which is the current way.
Good point.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 9:56 am to andouille
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If that happens, the whims of the few will prevail over the greater good, and the SEC won’t be greater for it.
That statement could apply to a lot more than scheduling.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 9:57 am to Tigercat
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What I don't get is why can't we do rotating opponents for everyone except AU&GA and Bama&Tenn? You can grant that by allowing for rival schools to petition for permanent opponents.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 10:02 am to Topwater Trout
quote:And I want to play Florida every year. Why is everyone pussying out over having to play Florida every year? Take pride in having a tough schedule, it's one of the reasons we'll be playing for our 3rd NC in 8 years next Monday...
I want to play bama every year.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 10:05 am to Dro
yeah, i love my LSU-florida annual clash.
but, if the realities of the league do away with it, it'd be interesting to finally see LSU-Florida in an SECCG for a change. I think that's one reason why you haven't seen LSU-Florida in that game (or Aub-UGA, or Bama-Tenn). The permanent game regular season loser has an uphill battle to get to the SECCG, even if they are the best team in their division.
but, if the realities of the league do away with it, it'd be interesting to finally see LSU-Florida in an SECCG for a change. I think that's one reason why you haven't seen LSU-Florida in that game (or Aub-UGA, or Bama-Tenn). The permanent game regular season loser has an uphill battle to get to the SECCG, even if they are the best team in their division.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 10:09 am to Dro
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Why is everyone pussying out over having to play Florida every year?
I don't think that is the prime objection. I think people are more aggravated that 4 schools are calling the shots in a 14 team conference.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 10:13 am to andouille
No matter what the schedule works out to be, something tells me its not going to please the majority.
Nonetheless, I am confident our LSU Tigers will retain the competitive spirit to take on ANY TEAM ANY TIME and best illustrated in this clip, lion instead of a tiger notwithstanding:
PUT 'EM UP, PUT 'EM UP
Nonetheless, I am confident our LSU Tigers will retain the competitive spirit to take on ANY TEAM ANY TIME and best illustrated in this clip, lion instead of a tiger notwithstanding:
PUT 'EM UP, PUT 'EM UP
This post was edited on 12/29/11 at 10:14 am
Posted on 12/29/11 at 10:17 am to andouille
The SEC and Alabama will never discontinue the annual Alabama vs Tennessee game. Let's face it, the SEC revolves around whatever Alabama wants (and let's not forget the Auburn-Georgia game).
The rest of the SEC schools are treated like bastard step-children.
The rest of the SEC schools are treated like bastard step-children.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 10:19 am to Tigercat
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What I don't get is why can't we do rotating opponents for everyone except AU&GA and Bama&Tenn? You can grant that by allowing for rival schools to petition for permanent opponents.
+1000000
Posted on 12/29/11 at 10:23 am to andouille
Let Alabama play Tennessee as a non-conference opponent on the years they are not rotated onto their SEC schedule.
The same for Auburn/Georgia.
Keep the divisions as is.
The same for Auburn/Georgia.
Keep the divisions as is.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 10:26 am to dstone12
quote:Somebody's mommy didn't breast feed him.
Moving Bama and Auburn to the East is a shitty, shitty idea. And only Rabalais could come up with is. Those that agree with him are doomed to suck at their job, like he does.
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