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re: Reminder: our OC never left
Posted on 3/9/20 at 3:19 pm to Nobelium
Posted on 3/9/20 at 3:19 pm to Nobelium
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, he decided to keep Ensminger around as OC to show Brady the ropes and be a steadying influence even though it was Brady who was really running the offense.
So why consistently give Ensminger all the credit during the season?
If you really want to keep Brady long term, and I have to believe that was the plan, why give E all the credit while Brady is doing it all in your scenario?
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 3:20 pm to luciouslou
quote:good lord. Compare our offenses in 2018 and 2019, with the same QB, RB, WRs, and most of the OL.
Every other day there is something about joe brady.
He was not the OC
Tell me what was different between our pedestrian offense in '18 and our blockbuster in '19.
Go ahead, you can admit it. Everyone knows.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 3:22 pm to luciouslou
quote:
Reminder: our OC never left
Posted on 3/9/20 at 3:24 pm to atltiger6487
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good lord. Compare our offenses in 2018 and 2019, with the same QB, RB, WRs, and most of the OL.
Brosette was the starting back in 18, not CEH.
I think you're discounting the wide receiver improvement between 18 and 19 (mostly due to Brady's coaching) and Joe actually having an offseason with the players and coaches.
Also 18 was only Ensminger's first year as the fulltime OC at LSU. Dude doesnt have a ton of big time OC experience despite his age.
Brady deserves praise but it didnt all hinge on him.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 3:41 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Brosette was the starting back in 18, not CEH.
And you somehow think it’s not a knock to have started Brossette over CEH
Or have the terrible WR substitution patterns they had in 2018 lmao
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Also 18 was only Ensminger's first year as the fulltime OC at LSU. Dude doesnt have a ton of big time OC experience despite his age
Cause he’s terrible
Posted on 3/9/20 at 3:41 pm to SidewalkTiger
quote:the vast majority of it did. And like other posters, I'm not beating up on Ensminger. I like the guy, and love his no-ego attitude. That's very rare among coaches, and that kept the coaching booth cool this year.
Brady deserves praise but it didnt all hinge on him.
So E gets some credit. But you're fooling yourself if you think it wasn't hugely due to Brady. I mean, look at Burrow's improvement. That wasn't due to E working with him in the offseason. It was a schematic change, due all to Brady.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 3:51 pm to luciouslou
Reminder: Our OC led an offense that totaled 0 points in 2 home games vs Alabama on his own. His offense was ranked in the bottom 4 of the SEC until a 7 overtime game elevated his numbers. The guy our idiot fanbase keeps trying to convince themselves had little or nothing to do what took place last season scored 46 at Bama on his first try and led the greatest offense in college football history.
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:01 pm to Nobelium
Okay but the reason why Brady had such a big affect is because he brought a new form of offense. He’s gone, but he didn’t take the playbook with him! Obviously not having Brady will make a difference, but losing him doesn’t hurt as bad as gaining him helped. 2020 will still be much better than 2018
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:05 pm to Madking
How cute. I'll admit that Burrow was a once and a lifetime player and had a ton Of heart to
Go with his beast work ethic, but for anyone yo sit there and say what we had in 19 was Es is really delusional and just dumb. I'm hoping they have copies of the binders but that won't go far if you don't know what to
Call and when to call it. E was on record telling Brady to "fix it" as he didn't know what to call. I don't think we should fire the guy but to make him
This mastermind of an offense is just silly. Remember he didn't even want the job
Go with his beast work ethic, but for anyone yo sit there and say what we had in 19 was Es is really delusional and just dumb. I'm hoping they have copies of the binders but that won't go far if you don't know what to
Call and when to call it. E was on record telling Brady to "fix it" as he didn't know what to call. I don't think we should fire the guy but to make him
This mastermind of an offense is just silly. Remember he didn't even want the job
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:06 pm to moneyg
Joe Brady during a interview said out of his mouth that he had never put together a game plan and it was Ensminger who was calling the plan most of the time. He had he was calling all of the red zone plays. So there it is and those are the facts. Coach O was building towards this offense all of the time. He had to be because the athletes necessary to run the offense were already in place. Geaux Tigahs
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:13 pm to Nobelium
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Anyone who doesn't think there was a massive difference between the offense LSU ran in 2016 and 2018 and the one they ran in 2019 is just fooling themselves. Watch the 2018 Alabama game with Burrow under center, slow developing play actions, max protect, long routes that don't let the QB get the ball out quickly, and screens and checkdowns getting blown up like the defense knew what was coming. Then compare that to 2019. I'm not saying that LSU isn't going to have an elite offense in 2020, but implying that the unprecedented transformation they went through is because of anyone but Brady is just stupid. NFL teams weren't breaking the door down to hire Ensminger.
Well said. It's more Joe Brady than most on here want to admit.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:15 pm to luciouslou
When Brent Venables was interviewed after the National Championship game. He talked about numbers 1,2,6,and then he threw in 81,and 22. Then he talked about number 9 being the perfect decision maker, executioner, and game manager of the offense. Then he talked about the Joe Moore award winning offensive line that paved the way. Many teams College and pro run a spread concept offense. Very few can match the play makers, or the personnel that 2019 LSU had. It is still about the Jim's and Joe's. That's why 2020 LSU is not even projected to win the SEC West this year. Steve Ensminger has never been around, or had any knowledge of the spread offense. But thanks to Joe Brady it can be assumed that he is very knowledgeable about it now. LSU has to get the right combination of players to execute it in order for us to enjoy further success. We had the perfect combination of players and coaches last year. Let's just wait and see how successful they are without each other this year. Brady,Ensminger, the players, and LSU's offense. Then we can continue this argument at a later date.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:29 pm to Lester Earl
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And you somehow think it’s not a knock to have started Brossette over CEH
I didnt say that.
Just pointing out that it was the "same RB".
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:31 pm to atltiger6487
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But you're fooling yourself if you think it wasn't hugely due to Brady. I mean, look at Burrow's improvement. That wasn't due to E working with him in the offseason. It was a schematic change, due all to Brady.
Why was O constantly giving E credit then?
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:34 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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Well said. It's more Joe Brady than most on here want to admit.
If it was mostly Joe Brady then there's literally no good reason for O to be pumping E up like he did all season.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:35 pm to luciouslou
He was much better than our weak as OC and that is why he got a major raise and is in pros.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:39 pm to Drayton80
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He was much better than our weak as OC and that is why he got a major raise and is in pros
Being in the pros doesnt mean someone is better than anyone else.
Also, Brady likely wouldve made the same or close to the same money at LSU in 2020 as in Carolina, dude just didnt like recruiting.
College athletics isnt for everyone.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:39 pm to luciouslou
Trust O. Trust E.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:40 pm to Drayton80
Why’d Brady win the broyles award and not ensminger?
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:47 pm to justice
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Why’d Brady win the broyles award and not ensminger?
People are the reactionary.
Like most on here, they say offense sucks in 2018.
Enter Brady.
Offense is great in 2019.
Same reason he got the Panthers job.
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