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re: SEC Officiating
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:34 am to The Real LSU King
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:34 am to The Real LSU King
I agree with that. Last night they just let them play. One thing they should how called last night was the targeting on Trevor Lawrence. How could you not call that. He led with the crown of his helmet. It was a text book targeting call by rule
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:44 am to TigerStripes30
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i dont know who was officiating last night but there were numerous holding calls that were not called...some were pretty obvious
I think this underscores the OPs point. In a big game like this, the refs don’t want to be the story and typically “let them play”.
However many flags they did throw, it likely was much worse.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:48 am to The Real LSU King
I did see a targeting penalty that wasn't called against Bama. Can't remember the circumstances but I remember one of their guys going helmet to helmet blatantly on a tackle and it wasn't called.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:51 am to MLCLyons
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I did see a targeting penalty that wasn't called against Bama. Can't remember the circumstances but I remember one of their guys going helmet to helmet blatantly on a tackle and it wasn't called.
I remember that play and as much as I hate Bama, I’m glad it wasn’t called. The defender was planted firm and both players went low for leverage. It was a perfect form tackle. There was no launch or spearing.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:52 am to MLCLyons
No team got hosed this season worse than Mississippi St vs Bama. That was absolutely pathetic.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:58 am to CP3forMVP
Those stats can’t be considered in a vacuum. It’s the timing and nature of the calls or non-calls. The SEC brass isn’t stupid as much as they are crooked. The refs will throw a couple token flags at the end of games to even up the yardage, but to purely go by number or yeardage doesn’t account for drive extending or killing penalties, momentum killers, bad spots, overturned calls and the flat out cheating no calls (PP Int, uncalled targeting in every game by their LB’s, using opponents as punching bags and blatant holding by the OL on pretty much every play. Take away their paid staff and alums officiating the game and they don’t know what to do.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:43 pm to Etxtigah
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the look on Nick's face when he challenged the Clemson completion on the sideline in the 4th quarter and the reception was upheld.
I think this was just a face saving gesture for him - he wanted a timeout to try and breath some life into his defense - but claimed he wanted the 'booth review' to keep it from looking like what it was = his defense was gassed and unmotivated.
There was never any question about the reception - the receiver was 2 yards inside the line.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:05 pm to Icansee4miles
My favorite part of the game was when the Clemson receiver from Alabama made that stellar catch. Saban calls for a review. Call stands. I was hoping the announcer would say sorry nick Ritter isn’t in the replay booth. ...
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:18 pm to HueyP
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Not even a mention by Fowler or Herbstreit
Herbstreit specifically mentioned that it could have been called there.
FTR I’m glad it wasn’t. The helmet to helmet was caused just as much by Lawrence as the defender. But if the primary concern is player safety, then Mack Wilson should’ve been booted from the league for being a repeat offender (Texas A&M and Tenn. games come to mind)
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:41 pm to The Real LSU King
Bama averaged 5.8 penalties a game on the season and 6.7 per game in the three games before last night.
Last night they had 6 penalties.
Against Oklahoma they had 9. They had 10 against Louisville, 8 against Ole Miss, 9 against A &M, and 8 against Auburn. 6 against LSU (we had 3). Their SEC stats are somewhat skewed by a zero penalty game against State.
All this to say that the numbers do not seem to back up the premise.
Last night they had 6 penalties.
Against Oklahoma they had 9. They had 10 against Louisville, 8 against Ole Miss, 9 against A &M, and 8 against Auburn. 6 against LSU (we had 3). Their SEC stats are somewhat skewed by a zero penalty game against State.
All this to say that the numbers do not seem to back up the premise.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:50 pm to MLCLyons
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I did see a targeting penalty that wasn't called against Bama. Can't remember the circumstances but I remember one of their guys going helmet to helmet blatantly on a tackle and it wasn't called.
It was on the QB at the end of a run. The QB was not defenseless at that point. The contact was not with the crown of the helmet. It was not targeting.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:58 pm to The Real LSU King
since we are discussing officiating... I missed the TD consensus regarding the hit burrow took in first quarter of Fiesta bowl... targeting? I said absolutely, yes... per the "standard" put forth by officials throughout the season. Sorry to get off initial topic.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:08 pm to acoll6
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since we are discussing officiating... I missed the TD consensus regarding the hit burrow took in first quarter of Fiesta bowl... targeting? I said absolutely, yes... per the "standard" put forth by officials throughout the season. Sorry to get off initial topic.
The QB is defenseless for the remainder of the play after a change of possession. Forceful contact to the head or neck area is targeting. The only way that hit was not targeting is if he was not forcefully struck in the head and neck, which is what the replays seemed to show. I would love to know the official explanation.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:10 pm to Miketheseventh
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How could you not call that. He led with the crown of his helmet.
It’s a great no call. The defender was planted firm holding his position. He wasn’t leading anything. No spearing. Both players went low for leverage. Perfect form tackle. Can’t penalize that.
If you do want that called, then you have to consider penalizing the ball carrier. He was actually leading with his helmet right in to the defender. Defender was holding his ground - like a charge in basketball.
Good no call.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:12 pm to Macavity92
Thanks for the reply! I'm still pissed about that play. Also not convinced Burrow didn't have a concussion after seeing how slow he was to get up.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:12 pm to The Real LSU King
quote:I had that same thought while watching the game. Bama didn't get the calls they normally get.
Didn't this year's bowl season prove the bias in SEC Officiating?
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:13 pm to BobBoucher
I agree that if these rules are for player protection that calls on ball carriers running with their head down should be considered.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:26 pm to The Real LSU King
I noticed Bama got called for their late hits after the play is over at least twice. Loved it. It's tough to win football games when you actually get your bullshite called out, isn't it? 
If you're LSU on the other hand, you have to watch your players get popped 5 yards out of bounds and the SEC refs never do a damn thing about it.
If you're LSU on the other hand, you have to watch your players get popped 5 yards out of bounds and the SEC refs never do a damn thing about it.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:35 pm to GetmorewithLes
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It is not just the calls but the timing of the calls. Bama rarely ever sees a drive killer penalty. My bigger gripe though is that Bama never gets burned by the 50/50 calls or many critical calls are never called against them
I preach this to anyone who will listen. I forget which game it was this year, but Bama got away with a blatant penalty in a certain game this year (I think it was a defensive PI) and I started commenting to my wife how insulting it is that they get away with that stuff and she asks how many penalties they had on the year compared to everyone else. I explained they are probably middle of the road because they get low impact penalties whenever the game is already over so their numbers don't look suspicious. Then I joked that any second there would be a "make-up call" to make it look fair and wouldn't you know it, a few plays later they finally call a PI against Bama...but only because the opponent was already on the 2 yard line and the PI only resulted in a 1 yard penalty, as opposed to the 15 yards it would've been on the previous miss.
It's so predictable.Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:37 pm to Dock Holiday
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I can't upvote this enough
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asked this before on here, but why in todays college football do we still have conference specific referees? Why do we not have crews that travel from conference to conference? The college game has gotten too big and makes too much money to not have paid NCAA referees.
The game is not that dramatically different from conference to conference and travel cost should not be in the discussion. With the geographic size of these conferences now, getting on a plane and staying in a hotel is a must for these crews.
Neither team should know who the crew will be or what part of the country they are coming from. It's past time for this to happen.
I can't upvote this enough
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