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re: Stop blaming the coaching staff...
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:30 am to JLFarnsworth
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:30 am to JLFarnsworth
Oh yea lets blame the line of scrimmage for:
Back to Back Delay of games
Offensive lineman catching passes
Special teams getting pummeled
Running the same I Formation down 20 in the third
There is no game plan it's the same offense we ran against fla. So predictable.
If your at work, and every time you send an email in the morning, and you get a message that says server problem after lunch you going to keep sending emails with no luck? Or change it up and try using the phone, or Text or face to face meetings.
Les does not have a plan for when the server crashes and he doesn't have to because he ain't going anywhere. We can afford his buy out
Back to Back Delay of games
Offensive lineman catching passes
Special teams getting pummeled
Running the same I Formation down 20 in the third
There is no game plan it's the same offense we ran against fla. So predictable.
If your at work, and every time you send an email in the morning, and you get a message that says server problem after lunch you going to keep sending emails with no luck? Or change it up and try using the phone, or Text or face to face meetings.
Les does not have a plan for when the server crashes and he doesn't have to because he ain't going anywhere. We can afford his buy out
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:30 am to Ex-Popcorn
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Ex-Popcorn
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:31 am to boxcar willie
quote:Recruiting rankings don't mean shite once they step foot on campus. How about comparing the # of players for each team currently in the NFL?
this is so stupid a statement. Bama average rival rating the past 8 years is 1.2. Lsu's is 7.4.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:32 am to roscoe mike
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There was no method of game planning or preparation that could have offset what occurred on both lines of scrimmage against Bama. It's that simple.
That is absolute horseshite
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:32 am to Uncs
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Offensive lineman catching passes
You gotta admit Hawkins channeled his inner OBJ on that one hand snag.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:33 am to roscoe mike
I guess we shouldn't blame the coaching staff for the abysmal special teams play either, right?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:34 am to Uncs
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Les does not have a plan for when the server crashes and he doesn't have to because he ain't going anywhere. We can afford his buy out
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:36 am to Brosef Stalin17
Brandon Harris needs further development with the short to intermediate passing game. He is not accurate enough, interception was a miss, waggle to a wide open tight end. He will get better. Formula to beat Alabama, make them defend entire field, they will make mistakes
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:38 am to laftoothdr
Shorter to intermediate passes. That TD throw was like greater than 40.
Turn it lose.
Turn it lose.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:42 am to Uncs
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Shorter to intermediate passes. That TD throw was like greater than 40.
If the coaches believe his short passing game is not were it needs to be they why the frick didn't we counter Bama's defense will some streaks and stretch the field. We made them pay on that corner blitz play for a td. Why didn't we continue to punish their commitment to stop the run with some air raid. Something Harris is familiar with considering that is what he ran in high school?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:45 am to Bricktop
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Cameron has got to go and this time don't hire a coach who was fired from his previous job; generally a bad indicator.
It wouldn't matter if Sean Peyton was the offensive coordinator as long as Les Miles is still the head coach. He insists on beating his head against the wall and living and dying by the run. Anyone can see the way to beat Bama is to spread them out, but he lines them up in the I-formation and runs right into the teeth of the best front 7 in college football.
You can still be a run heavy offense out of spread sets, and I agree that we should be run heavy, but you have to make them account for multiple threats and not just one.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 9:48 am
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:45 am to LSU_Saints_Hornets
bama provided the blueprint to stop LSU
blitz/bring pressure on every down and make brandon harris beat you and take your chances
blitz/bring pressure on every down and make brandon harris beat you and take your chances
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 9:46 am
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:51 am to Tigerinthehollow
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He did at times....I'm a posi-tiger....
Maybe lose that word from your vocabulary. Pro tip. It makes you sound 8 years old & hard to take your posts seriously. "Look! I'm a dinosaur !" Carry on...
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:06 am to Penrod
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Bama was stacking box and daring us to throw deep
No. No they weren't. They were stopping us WITHOUT stacking the box. Very rarely did they bring numbers.
True. Some peops aren't used to seeing 3-4 defenses anymore, so when Bama has 3 down lineman and 2 big arse LB's are the LOS acting as an extra defense end (Dillon Gordon would have helped there), they didn't need to stack the box because the frosh FB's and backup TE's couldn't handle their front. (W/obvious subpar O-line play in general).
Agree with posters asking for INCORPORATION of 4 wide sets to mix it up some. Get your best athletes on the field (hint: it's not Mouton ATM)
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:11 am to AjaxFury
Its just depressing and the worst part is that you know nothing is going to change.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:24 am to laftoothdr
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Brandon Harris needs further development with the short to intermediate passing game.
He's been making plays all year with no interceptions, accuracy, and one of the highest QBRs.
Your statement should read: LSU needs to further develop their short to intermediate passing game.
Passes designed for the sole purpose of complimenting our run game, is really no passing game at all. Therefore, it can't exist on its own. If BH is put in good situations, he will produce.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:26 am to Brosef Stalin17
I would have liked to see more of this to open up the front and give us more room to run, but ..
Our TE that does good at catching is hurt, I'm not sure whe we can't have something crazy like two TEs that can catch on the team, but apparently that is unpossible...
I don't think we've really run the WR screen effectively since Jimbo left. We've maybe gotten lucky on it a few times, but given how consistently bad it has been it can only be luck.
This was wide open and should have been run more up until Harris was hurt. After that, we had to stop running it because there are other games after this one and potentially injuring a player just to win a game isn't acceptable.
We tried it once and the result was a poorly thrown ball.
In general we have no intermediate game and nothing across the middle. Because of this if a team can go man on our WRs (which aren't very good at getting open) the linebackers can run blitz all day. When the DL is pushing the OL back 3 yds on most plays it's going to be a long night. I knew we were going to lose this game about 7 minutes in, and I was one of the sunshine pumpers who expected LF to get 120 - 150 yds.
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1. hitting the TE over the middle of the field
Our TE that does good at catching is hurt, I'm not sure whe we can't have something crazy like two TEs that can catch on the team, but apparently that is unpossible...
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2. WR screens
I don't think we've really run the WR screen effectively since Jimbo left. We've maybe gotten lucky on it a few times, but given how consistently bad it has been it can only be luck.
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3. more zone read w/harris
This was wide open and should have been run more up until Harris was hurt. After that, we had to stop running it because there are other games after this one and potentially injuring a player just to win a game isn't acceptable.
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4. Passes to RB out of the backfield
We tried it once and the result was a poorly thrown ball.
In general we have no intermediate game and nothing across the middle. Because of this if a team can go man on our WRs (which aren't very good at getting open) the linebackers can run blitz all day. When the DL is pushing the OL back 3 yds on most plays it's going to be a long night. I knew we were going to lose this game about 7 minutes in, and I was one of the sunshine pumpers who expected LF to get 120 - 150 yds.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 10:31 am
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:30 am to Katy Tiger
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Its just depressing and the worst part is that you know nothing is going to change.
Our defense played well enough for us to win, but were on the field too long.
Saban had it easy preparing for LSU's offense, he and every person in the world knew exactly what LSU was going to do. Les Miles was going to impose his will against a team with as much or more talent than LSU. Les made Fournette look bad with his stubbornness.
You're correct, nothing will ever change. We'll probably win 2 of the next 3 games, go 9 and 2, and get a nice bowl game.
No SECCG and no playoff appearance.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:31 am to Katy Tiger
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No. No they weren't. They were stopping us WITHOUT stacking the box. Very rarely did they bring numbers.
Not true. 11 of Fournette's runs were into a pre-snap 7+ man box. And, on a majority of his runs, Bama walked a safety up at snap to add another man into the box.
We could have run the same exact run plays into better defensive fronts if we simply used different formations. Want to run off tackle with fournette? Great. Lineup in a 4 wide set with Fournette as a single back. They will have at least 5 men in coverage, leaving a MAX of 6 in the box. More likely is that two safeties stayed in coverage on each side of the formation, leaving just a 5 man box.
We never once tried to do something like this. It's so simple it makes my head hurt.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:31 am to roscoe mike
the blame is squarely on Les Miles and Cam Camerons lap.
we should be attacking Bama where they are most vulnerable, the secondary.
We have an excellent receiving corps that could have carried us much farther than trying to pave through Bama's brick wall front 7 all night long.
we should be attacking Bama where they are most vulnerable, the secondary.
We have an excellent receiving corps that could have carried us much farther than trying to pave through Bama's brick wall front 7 all night long.
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