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re: The main difference between Clemson and LSU
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:00 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:00 pm to GumboPot
quote:Um, he was talking about Bama's pass rush.
I think it has more to do with Clemson slowing down bama’s rush
Bama's rush was only slowed down in the red-zone (where it counted). Between the 20's bama was running really well.
But you're right. Saban made a huge mistake not running the ball down their throats. I don't think they had a back with fewer than 6ypc. Just had to let Tua throw though.
Should've brought Hurts in after halftime imo.
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:01 pm to Fishhead
quote:Maybe elite recruits but none even sniffing all-conference.
We HAVE elite talent at WR.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:02 pm to GumboPot
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That's because Dabo simply recognized that bama's defense is loading the box and forcing their CB's into man coverage.
Coach E responds by leaving an extra blocker to handle the overloaded bama D.
Dabo responds by spreading bama out, using Renfrow and his RB as emergency outlets for Lawrence, and allowing his talented WRs to beat bama's CBs down field.
One approach is being scared. It's a defensive offense mentality.
The other approach is not being scared. It's an offensive offense mentality.
Bingo. I think Flynn even tweeted this earlier this season.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:03 pm to madddoggydawg
quote:So, coached poorly and in a shitty scheme. Thanks for agreeing, friend.
Maybe elite recruits but none even sniffing all-conference
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:05 pm to OKtiger
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Ultimately, this is why I never see LSU (or any SEC team) beating Alabama in the near future. We don't coach to win like Clemson. We coach and play to not lose.
youre not wrong here, but Clemson matches up very well with Bama this year... 3 first rounders on defense going up against bamas oline... clemson had a mostly senior OL going up against Bamas front... Their WR's matched speed with their DB's AND they werent scared and played both sides of the ball aggressively.... as one should....
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:10 pm to OKtiger
The main difference between us and Clemson is the way they attack you on offense. They make you defend the entire field and they give their athletes opportunities to make plays where we are as vanilla an offense as you’ll ever see with zero imagination and zero creativity as to getting guys the ball in position to use their gifts. There’s very little difference in actual talent on the field.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:10 pm to OKtiger
There's a whole discussion, if you can call it that, going on about OL in another thread.
If you wanted to point to one thing that stands out to me, other than offensive philosophy, that made the difference last night and is the biggest (not only, but most significant) difference between LSU and the Taters is:
The WRs.
Lawrence rarely had to 'look for them', it was pitch and catch. He knew where they'd be, and they'd be there on time with space.
Forgetting about the OL, and scheme, if he got pressure he had somewhere to go... through the air other than a down marker or into coverage.
In short his WRs bailed him out at times, the rest of the time made it easy on him no matter what was called or what his OL did.
If you wanted to point to one thing that stands out to me, other than offensive philosophy, that made the difference last night and is the biggest (not only, but most significant) difference between LSU and the Taters is:
The WRs.
Lawrence rarely had to 'look for them', it was pitch and catch. He knew where they'd be, and they'd be there on time with space.
Forgetting about the OL, and scheme, if he got pressure he had somewhere to go... through the air other than a down marker or into coverage.
In short his WRs bailed him out at times, the rest of the time made it easy on him no matter what was called or what his OL did.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:11 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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we play scared against other teams and when we get a lead we let up on the opponent.
A wonderful quality Miles implemented and utilized frequently while he was here.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:29 pm to Fishhead
quote:If you're a junior and not producing you can't really keep blaming the coaches.
So, (WRs are) coached poorly and in a shitty scheme.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:31 pm to OKtiger
Many differences. Aggressive coaching style. They don’t need to max protect with 9 guys. 5*QB.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:46 pm to OKtiger
In his postgame interview, Nick Saban said the reason Clemson was successful against his team was mainly because of SCHEME. When you have Talent and you apply the right scheme, you will be able to compete with Saban.
Right now LSU definitely is lacking in both departments along the lines.
Right now LSU definitely is lacking in both departments along the lines.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:01 pm to OKtiger
I've said this in a few previous threads, I truly believe this is the big difference.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:17 pm to hg
With the exception of this year, LSU has played with intensity like that pretty regularly against bama. The team gets excited to play bama and we have had some of our best defensive performances against them. The offense just hasn't been capable of staying on the field with their defense. Hopefully that is changing, Burrow might be able to make that step next year. For as long as I remember, they have been getting a lot of pressure on our average (at best) QBs, which isn't a recipe for success.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:22 pm to TeamLSU
Saban bragged on Canada and his scheme after we scored ten points.
I heard him bragging on Oklahoma and Lincoln Riley's scheme. Now he's bragging on Clemson's scheme.
I wonder why he didn't give the Clemson players credit? Why did he make it seem like it's coach v coach as if players are tools?
I heard him bragging on Oklahoma and Lincoln Riley's scheme. Now he's bragging on Clemson's scheme.
I wonder why he didn't give the Clemson players credit? Why did he make it seem like it's coach v coach as if players are tools?
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:24 pm to Old
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:35 pm to OKtiger
OL/DL play also. Burrow is still having nightmares of Bama’s #92. I didn’t even realize #92 was even in the game last night, that’s how much of a non factor he was.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:39 pm to OKtiger
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The main difference between Clemson and LSU
One has a two time NC coach and one has a coach who won 0 titles in anything?
It's clear O is coaching scared. He is trying to play it safe. He knows his time at LSU might be limited and he wants to stay as long as he can. That's why he kicks a FG last year from inside the one and runs the ball three straight times at Texas A&M when a first down wins the game.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 5:35 pm to OKtiger
Actual offensive coaches
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:04 pm to OKtiger
lol....okiedoke
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:06 pm to OKtiger
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You can look at all the statistics in the world and I do realize that Clemson has won with two 5* dual threat QB's...
i realize that Lawrence can run a little but calling him a dual threat QB is a stretch.
I agree with the rest about Clemson. What Swinney has done there is amazing but...I'd like to see how this PEDs thing plays out. That could become a major problem for them.
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