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Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:39 pm to CottonWasKing
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blame most of that on inexperience.
Why do we get inexperienced coaches? LSU should do better.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:13 pm to Jamey21
In over his head, didn't deliver on the whole reason he was promoted.
Time for him to go back to a position coach.
Time for him to go back to a position coach.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:16 pm to ScootiniTiger
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Why do we get inexperienced coaches? LSU should do better.
1) because it’s Brian Kelly’s offense. For better or worse it’s his baby and he’s got a track record of molding his own OCs
2) Joe Sloan is an excellent QB coach and we didn’t want to lose him. Because he was going to be an OC somewhere last year.
3) Joe Sloan had Bryce Underwood committed until one of the richest men in the world swooped in at the last second.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:16 pm to BigSlick
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You missed the point. He didn't mean we would get a lot of 2nd and 10s. He meant we will see what happens when we do. In other words, how is his play-calling in situations when we're behind the chains.
That’s also overblown by tRant though. People would get all up in arms when we ran the ball on 2nd & 10, which leads me back to my original point:
If you pass a lot on 1st down, you’re going to have a lot of 2nd & 10’s. You can’t be afraid to run the ball in that scenario. 3rd & 5-6 is way more manageable than 3rd & 10. On top of that, if you don’t run on 2nd down after an incompletion then you damn sure aren’t running on 3rd down after another incompletion. So at that point you’re not going to run much at all unless you either also run on 1st down or have a completion shy of the sticks. You can’t fall that deep into tendencies.
The problem wasn’t that we ran sometimes on 2nd & 10. The problem was that we weren’t effective running the ball regardless of down & distance.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:22 pm to Mandtgr47
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Nobody was winning it all with the center play that we had
IMHO, this is a big part of the problem. They constantly trotted out the C who could not do the job, and called shitty plays that he could not execute. Chester was hyped to be a road grader, yet he was asked to zone block all the time.
Part of calling the right plays is understanding what your guys can do and the C was flat out mentally lost every week. Either call plays he can do or replace his dumb arse.
Sloan needs to be replaced with someone who is fit for the job.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:26 pm to Lakeboy7
Jayden Daniel’s owes him too! He is a great QB coach. Verdict still out as OC
Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:09 pm to 33inNC
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Chester was hyped to be a road grader, yet he was asked to zone block all the time.
Flat out false, and the OL was much better in zone schemes than gap schemes last year.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:09 pm to Jamey21
He’s the weakest link on the offensive side of the ball, not as a QB coach but as OC/play caller.
He hamstrung the offense significantly last year by focusing much of the offense on a pass game and being completely predictable in the rare times he called running plays. He also sucked massively playcalling in the red zone.
Perhaps it was just lack of experience, but the only reason he was even given the OC position was his recruitment of Underwood, where he ultimately failed. While I understand that getting massively outbid was the biggest reason, Sloan was only in the position he was because of the Underwood commitment.
He hamstrung the offense significantly last year by focusing much of the offense on a pass game and being completely predictable in the rare times he called running plays. He also sucked massively playcalling in the red zone.
Perhaps it was just lack of experience, but the only reason he was even given the OC position was his recruitment of Underwood, where he ultimately failed. While I understand that getting massively outbid was the biggest reason, Sloan was only in the position he was because of the Underwood commitment.
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:39 pm to moneyg
Here is the scheme for the run game in 2025: hand the ball off to Caden Durham. That’s it.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:41 pm to lostinbr
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That’s also overblown by tRant though. People would get all up in arms when we ran the ball on 2nd & 10, which leads me back to my original point:
If you pass a lot on 1st down, you’re going to have a lot of 2nd & 10’s. You can’t be afraid to run the ball in that scenario. 3rd & 5-6 is way more manageable than 3rd & 10. On top of that, if you don’t run on 2nd down after an incompletion then you damn sure aren’t running on 3rd down after another incompletion. So at that point you’re not going to run much at all unless you either also run on 1st down or have a completion shy of the sticks. You can’t fall that deep into tendencies.
The problem wasn’t that we ran sometimes on 2nd & 10. The problem was that we weren’t effective running the ball regardless of down & distance.
Watch other teams, almost anyone runs on 2nd and 10, for exactly the reasons you mentioned.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:53 pm to nwallb9
quote:1 outta 2 ain't bad.
We have plenty talented players on OL and RB.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:03 am to SidewalkTiger
If we get a 2nd 10 after a pass incompletion, we must run. Even if it's two or three yards, 3 and 7 is better than 3 and 10. Most of us know that establishing a strong running game, especially in the first half, gives us a chance for some explosive runs in the second half. 
Posted on 7/4/25 at 2:02 am to BilbeauTBaggins
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he owes Jayden Daniels every penny he receives from LSU
It's hard to not extend when 2023 offense was #1 in country. It's not like you fire after that, but there needs to be serious analysis on what was coach's success vs players. But that is almost impossible to do, and when you have #1 offense in country, you don't fire the coach even if seemingly all players credit.
We saw what O was in 2020 and 2021 after 2019's talent.
This post was edited on 7/4/25 at 2:04 am
Posted on 7/4/25 at 2:09 am to Jamey21
There were quite a few times throughout the season in which Hellen Keller could recognize that it was a run and where we were running it.
Haven't seen anything like it before. No motions, no disguises, same formations.
Hoping it'll be fixed this season.
Haven't seen anything like it before. No motions, no disguises, same formations.
Hoping it'll be fixed this season.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 6:14 am to saturncube21
This year is big for Sloan & Brad, as 4 new OL with an experienced QB. Those 2 and Atkins have to work together to get the OL in sync and then learn to pass& run block. As last year they could never get the tough 2-3yards in the RZ and settled for way too many FGs and obvious passing downs which let the D line up and pin their ears back!
Posted on 7/4/25 at 6:43 am to Jamey21
Last year, offense was pretty bad in the red zone but 3rd down was pretty dang good. Running game needs be better, especially short yardage run plays. Hopefully they have worked some things out with red zone issues ( play calling, play design and route combos, Nuss being able to throw the fade better, utilize TE's and big WR'S more in the RZ ). If they get more efficient in the RZ and run it better, they will be just fine.
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