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re: Will Mahtook be a first round pick?
Posted on 4/3/11 at 9:49 pm to LSUlunatic
Posted on 4/3/11 at 9:49 pm to LSUlunatic
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he's more of a player without a below-average tool than one loaded with plus ones,
good analysis, imo
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 9:49 pm to Michael J
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If that is the case I guess louis coleman was a poor mans Leo-Cat.
no, he's a poor man's david miller.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 9:51 pm to Lester Earl
I wasn't so much talking numbers as just they kind of player he is and the fact that he can do so much. Their have been better hitters, better, base stealers, not sure if their have been better outfielders but not sure if anyone has been better as a total package.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 9:56 pm to Michael J
in order to be one of the greatest ever, the numbers have to match up. just my opinion
this is his first truly elite season
this is his first truly elite season
Posted on 4/3/11 at 9:57 pm to Michael J
jon zeringue is really similar to mahtook. probably a better hitter and a stronger arm, but not as good defensively and slower
Posted on 4/3/11 at 9:57 pm to Lester Earl
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in order to be one of the greatest ever, the numbers have to match up. just my opinion
this is his first truly elite season
Agreed. Which means he can never be in the same category as Furniss, Hill, Hawpe, Fontenot, etc.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 9:59 pm to LSUtoOmaha
Definitely not in the same category as Hawpe. But Hill...maybe.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 10:01 pm to Lester Earl
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in order to be one of the greatest ever, the numbers have to match up. just my opinion
True, but it is difficult to compare numbers to someone that played in the juiced bat/player era. He is head and shoulders ahead of Dean when talking all around players.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 10:03 pm to MOT
Dean had a much more impressive career and was a much bigger component of LSU's baseball accomplishments than Mahtook will ever be. Mahtook may be the more gifted player though by the time he leaves LSU.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 10:07 pm to LSUlunatic
Dean had a better career at LSU, but I don't think his tools will translate in the pros.
Edit: However, I didn't think Belt 1b from Texas would make it either and he's starting for the Giants.
Edit: However, I didn't think Belt 1b from Texas would make it either and he's starting for the Giants.
This post was edited on 4/3/11 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 4/3/11 at 10:07 pm to LSUlunatic
quote:he's certainly more gifted
Mahtook may be the more gifted player though by the time he leaves LSU.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 10:08 pm to MOT
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He is head and shoulders ahead of Dean when talking all around players.
dont know about head and shoulders, but his speed gives him a slight nod
as for hawpe and fontenot, both were 2 year guys. not sure if they are in the discussion of all time LSU greats.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 10:08 pm to LSUtoOmaha
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this is his first truly elite season
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Which means he can never be in the same category as Furniss, Hill, Hawpe, Fontenot, etc.
I disagree. Hawpe only had one "elite" year (due to injury), and I think his numbers would be comparable to Hill's. Furniss is obviously in another universe. But even then we're still just talking offense, and there is more to his game than that.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 10:11 pm to LSUlunatic
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Dean had a much more impressive career and was a much bigger component of LSU's baseball accomplishments than Mahtook will ever be. Mahtook may be the more gifted player though by the time he leaves LSU.
Dean was a great hitter, and that's where it ends. Mahtook is a more gifted player already, it doesn't matter if he ends up with less HRs, RBIs, etc.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 10:14 pm to MOT
I'd like to see what Mikie could do with the bats from 1997.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 10:17 pm to heatom2
probably similar to what guys like mike koerner and justin bowles did...20-25 HR's
Posted on 4/3/11 at 10:17 pm to Lester Earl
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dont know about head and shoulders, but his speed gives him a slight nod
Speed, defense, and arm all go to Mahtook..although I realize that may be a little harsh for Dean since his arm was dead when he arrived.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 10:19 pm to MOT
I think mahtook gets taken around 15-20 in the draft
Posted on 4/3/11 at 10:20 pm to DBG
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probably similar to what guys like mike koerner and justin bowles did...20-25 HR's
It's really tough to say. There has been two major bat changes since then and he is still in double figures.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 10:36 pm to cashflippa
I agree he does sometimes get bad jumps/reads on balls, but it usually isn't noticeable because he speed bails him out. Leon was a better center fielder, imo. Also, he's a fastball hitter, and guys like that can sometimes struggle getting used to pitching at the next level. I'd like to see him take a more gap to gap approach at the plate as well.
With all that said, I think he'll get drafted in the first round because the draft isn't about what you are, it's about what teams think you can be.
With all that said, I think he'll get drafted in the first round because the draft isn't about what you are, it's about what teams think you can be.
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