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re: You know what, screw McMahon

Posted on 2/8/26 at 6:55 pm to
Posted by Recoveringcajun
Banjo country
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 6:55 pm to
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He’s the worst coach of all time in any major sport at LSU, and before someone says Curley was worse you’re wrong because he beat an undefeated, top 5 Bama team in Bryant Denny.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

But your drink down and sober up before you post anymore.

Worse than Curley Hallman… You may also just be a dunk crack baby who can’t evaluate even when sober.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33920 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 6:56 pm to
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It’s just the usual low info crowd wish casting. I also love the “much tougher era” double standard which is also objectively false. These people just flail around desperately trying to defend this guy. No coach in any sport has ever been coddled this way, especially one who loses so much.


SEC NCAA Births:
2012-13: 3
2013-14: 3
2014-15: 5
2015-16: 3
2016-17: 5

2022-23: 8
2023-24: 8
2024-25: 14

Yeah, totally the same SEC from Jones to McMahon Just go back and look at the coaches in the league from then until now. There is absolutely no comparison to be made.

And talking about levels of failure is not defending anyone. It’s just pointing out the constant recency bias of this board.
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 7:00 pm
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33920 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 6:58 pm to
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It’s all semantics but MM has been so bad that he deserves to be fired


Yes.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
31277 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 6:59 pm to
Curley gets exonerated, imo for three reasons:

1. Terrible OC's -- George Haffner and Lynn Amedee were mindbogglingly bad at their jobs. The latter one made Joe Sloan look like a Rhodes Scholar.

2. Curley's own statement when he took the job. He said it would take 5 years to make LSU into a winning team. Unfortunately he only got 4-- his "5th year" was Gerry Dinardo's first.

3. The Curse of The Purple Jerseys -- LSU wore nothing but gold-purple-gold uniforms at home. They were widely believed to be unlucky, and the team went 9-16 in home games during his reign.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
23409 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:02 pm to
MM has a worse sec winning percentage than curly. It’s hard to believe but true
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33920 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:03 pm to
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Curley gets exonerated, imo for three reasons: 1. Terrible OC's -- George Haffner and Lynn Amedee were mindbogglingly bad at their jobs. The latter one made Joe Sloan look like a Rhodes Scholar.


Absolutely nothing can exonerate Curley, especially two guys that HE HIRED.

And frick curses. Purple jerseys didn’t bother Arnsparger. Good coaches win.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
23409 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:07 pm to
The 14 last year was clown shite from a stacked committee.

Jones made the tourny when less sec teams were getting in. So league wasn’t as deep but it also didn’t have the same respect it does now.

Plus there was 2 less teams until last year.

It looks worse for MM that in the time he has been hired every single sec team managed a tourny birth but us.

MM failed to make it when sub 500 sec teams were let in

Trent, Jones and Wade all didn’t what MM had to start their time here, the transfer portal to be instantly better. Trent didn’t need it since Brady left him a stacked team but Jones got a dumpster fire won and then proceeded to have us playing a tuba player. Wade rebuilt us in year 1 and 2 with no portal to instantly fix it.

So yes harder sec but easier to get in the tourny and rebuild.
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 7:11 pm
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
23409 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:08 pm to
Curly made the hiring decision
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33920 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:14 pm to
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It looks worse for MM that in the time he has been hired every single sec team managed a tourny birth but us. MM failed to make it when sub 500 sec teams were let in


I’ll conceded MM is worse even with the adjustments, not that Jones was much better. My main point is that McMahon is not the “worst coach in LSU sports history.” He’s likely not even the worst basketball coach in LSU history when you look back before Brown. But that’s the recency bias hysteria this board loves to constantly indulge in.

There’s another thread on Page 1 right now saying Woody is the worst AD in NCAA history when both Alleva and Dean were FAR worse hete just since I went to LSU. It’s a constant here.
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
23409 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:27 pm to
I get it’s a bit of a hyperbole but for the modern era the stats are alarmingly bad. I dont really think it matters much going past the modern era because college athletics is a much different game than back then.

LSU has lacked a good AD for a long time. I do think fat Scott might actually be worse than Joe Alleva who should have never had the job. Joe Dean was pretty damn bad.


Alleva probably has the title of worst AD considering his time here and Duke
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
23409 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:28 pm to
I agree Jones wasn’t much better.

At the end of the day MM would need to be fired if he is the worst second or third considering these results
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67795 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:35 pm to
That’s exactly what you’re doing. Equating winning with losing and using a bunch of nonsense and double standards to do so.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
46288 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:42 pm to
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That’s exactly what you’re doing. Equating winning with losing and using a bunch of nonsense and double standards to do so.
He came up with the conclusion of recency bias and then decided to figure out how to get there. It’s very apparent in the posts.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
23409 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:43 pm to
The bias was looser than the rims in the pmac
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33920 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:45 pm to
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Scott might actually be worse than Joe Alleva who should have never had the job. Joe Dean was pretty damn bad. Alleva probably has the title of worst AD considering his time here and Duke


That’s just not even close to being true. Alleva was a spineless weasel who hired O because he couldn’t be bothered to run a coaching search beyond Herman and was too arrogant to bring in help. He also presided over a department that didn’t have the fundraising or organization that Woody was able to bring.

However people want to look back at the JJ and Mulkey hires and whether Woody should or shouldn’t get credit for them, the financial position of the department and NIL are the good things that he left behind. In more capable and less political hands, those should serve Rousse, Verge and Kiffin very well.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33920 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:46 pm to
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I agree Jones wasn’t much better. At the end of the day MM would need to be fired if he is the worst second or third considering these results


I agree. And he will be. There’s no way a first year Prez and AD will back a guy they didn’t hire who’s performing this poorly.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67795 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:46 pm to
Notice he didn’t go into championships or final 4 appearances and he left out Trent’s era of course so he could exclude the last SEC national title winner. It’s like saying Dale Brown didn’t lose it at the end of his tenure the SEC was just the best it’s ever been so Brady making the sweet 16 and final 4 doesn’t count which of course is insane.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33920 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:48 pm to
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He came up with the conclusion of recency bias and then decided to figure out how to get there. It’s very apparent in the posts.


I knew the disparity in coaching and overall conference performance very well. The fact that all of you blindly dismiss it is hilarious.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
23409 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:48 pm to
Scott had us way behind one point on NIL despite his silly NILSU ads in Times Square. Scott was playing by the letter of the law all while others were playing in where we all knew it would go.

LSU has since corrected it.

Scott saddled us with the Ed O contract, meddled in hiring of OC and dc, approved that insane Bo P contract, fired Wade hired MM.

It was an ugly reign for someone that was titled best AD in the country. Hindsight is what it is but plenty of people thought BK was a loser at ND and Scott paid him 100M
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67795 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:50 pm to
You do realize we’ve had two major conferences basically erased since then right? You also realize that the big ten was putting 9-10 teams in every year just a couple years back that were mostly getting beat in the 1st round so your qualifier is faulty.
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 7:51 pm
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