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re: Your all-time LSU BASKETBALL team
Posted on 4/21/12 at 11:34 am to TopWaterTiger
Posted on 4/21/12 at 11:34 am to TopWaterTiger
quote:Good list
Starting 5: G - Pete Maravich G - Chris Jackson F - Bob Petitte F - Rudy Macklin C - Shaq
quote:
2nd Team (this is where it gets very debatable) G - Marcus Thorton G - Vernel Singleton F - Stromile Swift F - Brandon Bass C - Glenn Davis
Not very good
Id go with
1. Martin or Derrick Taylor
2. Thorton or Brandon
4. Swift - Tyrus Thomas
3. Fat John Williams
5. Stanley Roberts
1
Posted on 4/21/12 at 11:41 am to Jaketigger
quote:
5. Stanley Roberts
Over Greg Cook?????????? NO.
quote:
3. Fat John Williams
Redden Or Blanton Over Williams.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 11:52 am to SL Tiger
Their scoring average would be insane. Imagine the stats when other teams couldn't double/triple team PP, CJ, and Shaq?? You could add any number of past players at 3-4 and they would be tough to beat. I think the key would be at 4. We would need an unselfish rebounder/shot blocker. Add a scoring threat & rebounder at 3...UH and UCLA are doomed. My question would be...Who would coach this team? Dale blew it with Stanley, Shaq, and CJ so he's eliminated. If you had the choice of any coach...who would you choose??
Posted on 4/21/12 at 12:01 pm to TopWaterTiger
Posted on 4/21/12 at 12:05 pm to SL Tiger
quote:John Wooten.
If you had the choice of any coach...who would you choose??
Of our coaches, though, I'd probably have to take Trent Johnson. Between him, Brady and Dale, he seemed to have the best overall grasp of Xs and Os (slim pickings in that respect, imo). He just couldn't get enough talent here to play for him. With the talent already there for him . . . well, I'll just say this: if he could get that 2009 team to the second round, he could probably get this team to a championship.
On second thought, can we just skip the coach and just let Pete run the game on the floor?
Posted on 4/21/12 at 12:05 pm to King Joey
quote:
In that sense, yes. But Pettit played in a different generation than Macklin, and did not have his athleticism (from what I've seen)
Pettit not athletic? Check out these highlights and tell me that.
LINK
Plus Pettit was over 6'9" and Macklin a little under 6'7". Pettit had a much better outside shot, more moves and was an equally good rebounder.
Make no mistake, Bob Pettit was one of the all time greats!
Posted on 4/21/12 at 12:53 pm to Tom Bronco
quote:I did not say Pettit was not athletic. I said I do not recall him as being as athletic as Macklin.
Pettit not athletic? Check out these highlights and tell me that
quote:I have never made that mistake, and I don't intend to ever make it. But the problem with all time greats is that time doesn't stand still. Guys that dominated Football, Basketball, Track, etc., 50 or 60 years ago would likely be merely stars for their team in todays leagues. There are a few rare exceptions (Wilt comes to mind). But for most athletes more than a generation ago, the game has evolved and the players with it. The competition is simply of a much different caliber.
Make no mistake, Bob Pettit was one of the all time greats!
In 1954, when Pettit entered the NBA, the world record high jump was just under 7 feet. That would not have made the top 5 in high school last year. The world record in the 100m was 10.2, which would have finished outside the top 5 in the NCAAs last year. And the world record in the bench press was something under 236.5 kgs (which was the record set in 1972). The current collegiate record is 320 kgs (the current world record is 488.64 kgs, more than double the record when Pettit retired from basketball). These were all world records from that era that would not even be among the top performances in lower leve competition today.
Bodies of elite physical athletes have changed over the decades. The guy who seemed super fast, athletic and strong in the '50s could very easily look like just another really good player today. Heck, I'm a tad concerned about Macklin being out of date; it was over 30 years ago when he played.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:11 pm to TopWaterTiger
Starting lineup:
Shaq
Bob Pettit
John Williams
Pete Maravich
Ethen Martin
Substitutes:
Stanley Roberts
Rudy Macklin
Stromile Swift
Dwayne Scales
Chris Jackson
Howard Carter
Marcus Thorton
Ronnie Henderson
ETA: This combination of platers gives LSU incredible versatility offensively. You have outstanding three point shooters in the starting lineup, as well as coming off the bench. And with Shaq and Stanley Roberts you have dominating low post players. The team even has players who could create their own shots off the dribble and penetrate as well. The one role I left off the team was the animal defender who could neutralize another team's best threat. But I figured there were more than enough shot blockers to allow the guards to focus on perimeter defense.
Shaq
Bob Pettit
John Williams
Pete Maravich
Ethen Martin
Substitutes:
Stanley Roberts
Rudy Macklin
Stromile Swift
Dwayne Scales
Chris Jackson
Howard Carter
Marcus Thorton
Ronnie Henderson
ETA: This combination of platers gives LSU incredible versatility offensively. You have outstanding three point shooters in the starting lineup, as well as coming off the bench. And with Shaq and Stanley Roberts you have dominating low post players. The team even has players who could create their own shots off the dribble and penetrate as well. The one role I left off the team was the animal defender who could neutralize another team's best threat. But I figured there were more than enough shot blockers to allow the guards to focus on perimeter defense.
This post was edited on 4/21/12 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 4/21/12 at 2:45 pm to dukke v
John Williams was a great at his size. He was do fluid. Best 3 we have ever had
Posted on 4/21/12 at 3:28 pm to BayouBengals03
LSU Basketball 16-man all-century team
was put together by decade and isn't a good base for an All Time LSU top 16 man team.
John Williams was better than almost 3/4 of that all time team, even the LSU SID will tell Williams should have been on that team.
But politics and bad blood by some (as he left early for the NBA as So.) and this is why he was left off.
John is one of the top 6-7 best players at LSU and that is saying a lot when you look at the talent that has come out of LSU.
was put together by decade and isn't a good base for an All Time LSU top 16 man team.
John Williams was better than almost 3/4 of that all time team, even the LSU SID will tell Williams should have been on that team.
But politics and bad blood by some (as he left early for the NBA as So.) and this is why he was left off.
John is one of the top 6-7 best players at LSU and that is saying a lot when you look at the talent that has come out of LSU.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 9:53 pm to SL Tiger
CJ's strength was his quick shot. how would that be an advantage on a team with Pete and Shaq?
He was a phenom with the quick shot and the 3 point line, but I was never that impressed with his defense and passing. both things we need with Shaq on the team. BTW Pete was not known for any defense either. we need some guards that would play defense some of the time. Ethan was not the best defender, but he got a bunch of steals and certainly tried to defend. We will never know what Livingston could have done if he was healthy.
John Williams could serve as a point forward. He had tremendous passing skills. A good defender, but not great.
Pettit and Shaq defended and rebounded.
Not a bad defensive team if the point can hold up. As a result, I still think Ethan would be the best choice.
He was a phenom with the quick shot and the 3 point line, but I was never that impressed with his defense and passing. both things we need with Shaq on the team. BTW Pete was not known for any defense either. we need some guards that would play defense some of the time. Ethan was not the best defender, but he got a bunch of steals and certainly tried to defend. We will never know what Livingston could have done if he was healthy.
John Williams could serve as a point forward. He had tremendous passing skills. A good defender, but not great.
Pettit and Shaq defended and rebounded.
Not a bad defensive team if the point can hold up. As a result, I still think Ethan would be the best choice.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 10:23 pm to tigger1
quote:
LSU Basketball 16-man all-century team was put together by decade
No it wasn't.
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:24 am to TopWaterTiger
G-Chris Jackson
G-Pete Maravich
F-Glenn Davis
F-Stromile Swift
C-Shaq
G-Pete Maravich
F-Glenn Davis
F-Stromile Swift
C-Shaq
This post was edited on 4/22/12 at 1:47 am
Posted on 4/22/12 at 5:24 am to Jaketigger
quote:
He was do fluid. Best 3 we have ever had
NO. Redden and Blanton were better. Sorry.
Posted on 4/22/12 at 7:54 am to dukke v
quote:
NO. Redden and Blanton were better. Sorry.
Blanton & Redden = very good
John Williams = great
Posted on 4/22/12 at 10:12 am to T
T
January 16, 2008:
Nominees from The 1940s (1940-1949)
Joe Bill Adcock – C – 1944-47: Second Team All-SEC, 1946; SEC Tournament record for points, 31 against Tulane, 1946; SEC Leading Scorer 1946 (18.6); averaged 11.6 in 1947
Charles Bozeman – C – 1938-41: Leading scorer in 1941, 13.4 points per game
Frank Brian – F – 1942-43; 1945-47: First Team All-SEC, 1943; Second Team 1947; Leading scorer in 1947 – 9.8 ppg in 1943; 18.0 average in 1947 ... La. Sports Hall of Famer, La. Assoc. of Basketball Coaches Hall of Fame
John Chaney – F – 1940-43: Second Team All-SEC, 1943.
Alvin Dark – G – 1942-43: Played just two years of basketball before concentrating on baseball ... Team was 19-5 during his two years in the SEC.
Richard “Whitey” Hoskins, Jr. – G – 1942-44: Second Team All-SEC, 1944.
Clyde Lindsey –F – 1944-46: Three sport athlete; 15.7 ppg as a senior in 1945.
Bobby Lowther – F – 1942-43; 1945-48: First Team All-SEC, 1946; First Team All-American, Basketball, Track, 1946; Louisiana Sports Hall of Famer; averaged 14.7 point in 1946; averaged 12.7 in 1947.
Bill Michaelis – G – 1943-44; 1946-49: Starting point guard on teams in late 1940s.
Dale Morey – F – 1939-42: Only LSU player to go directly from player to coach in 1943 after Harry Rabenhorst entered the service.
Gene Murphy – G – 1947-51: Second Team All-SEC, 1949.
Dick Thompson – G – 1947-51; Averaged 10.2 points per game in 1949
Bill Walters – G – 1942-43; 1945-47: Guards on team that joined with Joe Adcock and Frank Brian to go 18-4 in 1942-43 before WWII and 33-12 in two seasons after the war.
Bubba Webb – G – 1942-43; 1945-47: Guards on team that joined with Joe Adcock and Frank Brian to go 18-4 in 1942-43 before WWII and 33-12 in two seasons after the war.
Nominees from The 1950s (1950-1959)
Don Belcher – F – 1951-55 – Averaged 12.4 points in 1953
Ned Clark – F – 1951-55 – Member 1953 NCAA Final Four Team; Fifth leading rebounder in school history with 988. 1953 – 9.4 ppg, 1954 – 7.4 ppg; 1955 – 9.8 ppg
Joe Combs – 1956-59 – Averaged 10.7 points, 7.4 rebounds a game in 1959
Jim Crisco – F – 1956-59 – Averaged 11.6 points per game in 1958; Team leading scorer (12.2) in 1959; Team leading rebounder in 1958 (9.0) and 1959 (7.6).
Joe Dean – G – 1949-52 – All-SEC First Team 1952; All-SEC Second Team 1951; Member of the LSU Athletic Hall of Fame, NABC Silver Anniversary Team; LABC Hall of Fame; Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame; Team leading scorer in 1950 (10.8), 1951 (15.1), second behind Petit in 1952 (18.3 ppg); 32nd at LSU in career scoring (1,072 points).
Norman Magee – G – 1951-55 – Averaged 13.2 ppg in 1953; 10.0 in 1954 part of NCAA Final Four team; 11.7 in 1955.
Benny McArdle – G – 1951-54 – All-SEC Second Team, 1953; All-SEC Third Team, 1954.
Bob Meador – F – 1948-51 – All-SEC Third Team, 1950; First player to start ever game over four years; first player over 1,000 career points ... Presently 30 on career scoring list (1,099) ... Averaged 11.4 in 1950, 12.4 in 1951
Dom Merle – F – 1955-58 – 13.6 scoring average, 1956; 12.7 average, 1957; Team leading scorer in 1958 (12.3 ppg), team leader in FGs 1958.
Wayne Munson – F – 1957-59 – Averaged best of 10.2 points and 10.3 in 1958; Averaged 9.2 points, 6.4 rebounds in 1959
Lynn Moon – C – 1956-59 – Best season of 10.0 points per game in 1959 and 6.4 rebounds.
Gene Murphy – F – 1947-51 – Averaged 10.6 points in 1950 and 9.8 in 1951.
Bob Pettit – F – 1951-54 – All-SEC First Team, 1952, 1953, 1954; All-American Second Team, 1952; All American First Team 1953, 1954 ... Fifth all-time in LSU point (1,916), third scoring average (27.4), 1st rebound average (14.8), fourth total rebounds (1,039) ... All-time best single season rebound average at LSU (17.3, 1954) ... 31.4 ppg average in 1954, 25.5 in 1952, 24.7 in 1953 ... 60 points vs. La. College, 1953.
Troy Rushing – F – 1954-57 – 12.3 scoring average, 1956; 15.0 ppg in 1957; Averaged 10.3 rebounds his final season (1957) ... 26th all-time in total rebounds at LSU (560), 7.9 average for 71 games.
Don Sebastian – G – 1952-56 – Averaged 7.4 points, 1955; 11.5 points per game, 1956
Roger Sigler – F – 1953-57 – All-SEC First Team 1956; 3rd Team 1957; Team leading scorer in 1955 (15.0), 1956 (25.1), 1957 (18.4) ... Leading rebounder in 1956 (13.8)...Led team in free throws in 1955, 1956, 1957; 22nd in career scoring (1,318 points); 18th in rebounding (713).
January 16, 2008:
Nominees from The 1940s (1940-1949)
Joe Bill Adcock – C – 1944-47: Second Team All-SEC, 1946; SEC Tournament record for points, 31 against Tulane, 1946; SEC Leading Scorer 1946 (18.6); averaged 11.6 in 1947
Charles Bozeman – C – 1938-41: Leading scorer in 1941, 13.4 points per game
Frank Brian – F – 1942-43; 1945-47: First Team All-SEC, 1943; Second Team 1947; Leading scorer in 1947 – 9.8 ppg in 1943; 18.0 average in 1947 ... La. Sports Hall of Famer, La. Assoc. of Basketball Coaches Hall of Fame
John Chaney – F – 1940-43: Second Team All-SEC, 1943.
Alvin Dark – G – 1942-43: Played just two years of basketball before concentrating on baseball ... Team was 19-5 during his two years in the SEC.
Richard “Whitey” Hoskins, Jr. – G – 1942-44: Second Team All-SEC, 1944.
Clyde Lindsey –F – 1944-46: Three sport athlete; 15.7 ppg as a senior in 1945.
Bobby Lowther – F – 1942-43; 1945-48: First Team All-SEC, 1946; First Team All-American, Basketball, Track, 1946; Louisiana Sports Hall of Famer; averaged 14.7 point in 1946; averaged 12.7 in 1947.
Bill Michaelis – G – 1943-44; 1946-49: Starting point guard on teams in late 1940s.
Dale Morey – F – 1939-42: Only LSU player to go directly from player to coach in 1943 after Harry Rabenhorst entered the service.
Gene Murphy – G – 1947-51: Second Team All-SEC, 1949.
Dick Thompson – G – 1947-51; Averaged 10.2 points per game in 1949
Bill Walters – G – 1942-43; 1945-47: Guards on team that joined with Joe Adcock and Frank Brian to go 18-4 in 1942-43 before WWII and 33-12 in two seasons after the war.
Bubba Webb – G – 1942-43; 1945-47: Guards on team that joined with Joe Adcock and Frank Brian to go 18-4 in 1942-43 before WWII and 33-12 in two seasons after the war.
Nominees from The 1950s (1950-1959)
Don Belcher – F – 1951-55 – Averaged 12.4 points in 1953
Ned Clark – F – 1951-55 – Member 1953 NCAA Final Four Team; Fifth leading rebounder in school history with 988. 1953 – 9.4 ppg, 1954 – 7.4 ppg; 1955 – 9.8 ppg
Joe Combs – 1956-59 – Averaged 10.7 points, 7.4 rebounds a game in 1959
Jim Crisco – F – 1956-59 – Averaged 11.6 points per game in 1958; Team leading scorer (12.2) in 1959; Team leading rebounder in 1958 (9.0) and 1959 (7.6).
Joe Dean – G – 1949-52 – All-SEC First Team 1952; All-SEC Second Team 1951; Member of the LSU Athletic Hall of Fame, NABC Silver Anniversary Team; LABC Hall of Fame; Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame; Team leading scorer in 1950 (10.8), 1951 (15.1), second behind Petit in 1952 (18.3 ppg); 32nd at LSU in career scoring (1,072 points).
Norman Magee – G – 1951-55 – Averaged 13.2 ppg in 1953; 10.0 in 1954 part of NCAA Final Four team; 11.7 in 1955.
Benny McArdle – G – 1951-54 – All-SEC Second Team, 1953; All-SEC Third Team, 1954.
Bob Meador – F – 1948-51 – All-SEC Third Team, 1950; First player to start ever game over four years; first player over 1,000 career points ... Presently 30 on career scoring list (1,099) ... Averaged 11.4 in 1950, 12.4 in 1951
Dom Merle – F – 1955-58 – 13.6 scoring average, 1956; 12.7 average, 1957; Team leading scorer in 1958 (12.3 ppg), team leader in FGs 1958.
Wayne Munson – F – 1957-59 – Averaged best of 10.2 points and 10.3 in 1958; Averaged 9.2 points, 6.4 rebounds in 1959
Lynn Moon – C – 1956-59 – Best season of 10.0 points per game in 1959 and 6.4 rebounds.
Gene Murphy – F – 1947-51 – Averaged 10.6 points in 1950 and 9.8 in 1951.
Bob Pettit – F – 1951-54 – All-SEC First Team, 1952, 1953, 1954; All-American Second Team, 1952; All American First Team 1953, 1954 ... Fifth all-time in LSU point (1,916), third scoring average (27.4), 1st rebound average (14.8), fourth total rebounds (1,039) ... All-time best single season rebound average at LSU (17.3, 1954) ... 31.4 ppg average in 1954, 25.5 in 1952, 24.7 in 1953 ... 60 points vs. La. College, 1953.
Troy Rushing – F – 1954-57 – 12.3 scoring average, 1956; 15.0 ppg in 1957; Averaged 10.3 rebounds his final season (1957) ... 26th all-time in total rebounds at LSU (560), 7.9 average for 71 games.
Don Sebastian – G – 1952-56 – Averaged 7.4 points, 1955; 11.5 points per game, 1956
Roger Sigler – F – 1953-57 – All-SEC First Team 1956; 3rd Team 1957; Team leading scorer in 1955 (15.0), 1956 (25.1), 1957 (18.4) ... Leading rebounder in 1956 (13.8)...Led team in free throws in 1955, 1956, 1957; 22nd in career scoring (1,318 points); 18th in rebounding (713).
Posted on 4/22/12 at 10:13 am to tigger1
BATON ROUGE -- LSU’s celebration of 100 years of collegiate basketball begins on Wednesday as balloting will begin on the first of a series of All-Decade Teams that will eventually lead to the selection of an All-Century team of LSU players.
The voting will be online at www.LSUsports.net and will begin at 10 a.m. CT on Wednesday with the unveiling of the nominees for the All-Decade teams of the 1940s and 1950s. Fans will be asked to choose their five top players from each of the decades. Nomination information on the candidates, selected by the centennial committee, will be available on line and in the game program Wednesday night at 7 p.m. at the LSU-Auburn game at the Maravich Center.
Fans can vote on the 1940s and 1950s team through Feb. 15
The 1960s and 1970s All-Decade team ballots will be unveiled on Jan. 26 at the Arkansas game, the 1980s and 1990s ballot will be shown for the first time at the Feb. 9 game with Tennessee and the final all-decade ballot from the 2000s will be available for voting on the day of the Kentucky game on Feb. 16.
The all-decade team, along with the early years team from 1909-1939 (that will be selected by the centennial committee) will be announced at the final home game of the 2008 season on March 5 against Alabama. All former players who make the all-decade teams will be eligible for the ballot for the All-Century team with voting to take place in the summer and early fall.
Starting in February, fans will also be able to go to the LSUsports.net site and nominate their top LSU basketball moments for the list of 100 greatest moments in LSU basketball and a site will be created that will allow former players and LSU basketball staff members to provide their latest contact information to the athletic department so they can receive information about the 100th anniversary reunion of former players that will take place in the Maravich Center on Jan. 30, 2009, the night the All-Century team will be announced.
“We have already heard from several former players and members of the centennial committee who have old pictures and films of games that they are getting to us to be able to further showcase the history of LSU basketball,” said centennial co-chairman Kent Lowe, Senior Associate SID at LSU. “This voting on the all-decade teams is already drawing the interest of our fans and we look forward over the next several weeks to see how the voting plays out.”
The voting will be online at www.LSUsports.net and will begin at 10 a.m. CT on Wednesday with the unveiling of the nominees for the All-Decade teams of the 1940s and 1950s. Fans will be asked to choose their five top players from each of the decades. Nomination information on the candidates, selected by the centennial committee, will be available on line and in the game program Wednesday night at 7 p.m. at the LSU-Auburn game at the Maravich Center.
Fans can vote on the 1940s and 1950s team through Feb. 15
The 1960s and 1970s All-Decade team ballots will be unveiled on Jan. 26 at the Arkansas game, the 1980s and 1990s ballot will be shown for the first time at the Feb. 9 game with Tennessee and the final all-decade ballot from the 2000s will be available for voting on the day of the Kentucky game on Feb. 16.
The all-decade team, along with the early years team from 1909-1939 (that will be selected by the centennial committee) will be announced at the final home game of the 2008 season on March 5 against Alabama. All former players who make the all-decade teams will be eligible for the ballot for the All-Century team with voting to take place in the summer and early fall.
Starting in February, fans will also be able to go to the LSUsports.net site and nominate their top LSU basketball moments for the list of 100 greatest moments in LSU basketball and a site will be created that will allow former players and LSU basketball staff members to provide their latest contact information to the athletic department so they can receive information about the 100th anniversary reunion of former players that will take place in the Maravich Center on Jan. 30, 2009, the night the All-Century team will be announced.
“We have already heard from several former players and members of the centennial committee who have old pictures and films of games that they are getting to us to be able to further showcase the history of LSU basketball,” said centennial co-chairman Kent Lowe, Senior Associate SID at LSU. “This voting on the all-decade teams is already drawing the interest of our fans and we look forward over the next several weeks to see how the voting plays out.”
Posted on 4/22/12 at 10:50 am to tigger1
so with your last two posts are you just wanting to point out that your original statement "LSU Basketball 16-man all-century team was put together by decade and isn't a good base for an All Time LSU top 16 man team" is wrong? people voted from a big list comprised of every all-decade team to determine the all-century team regardless of what decade they played in. try to understand what you are talking about before you post.
Posted on 4/22/12 at 11:15 am to King Joey
I disagree. We would have a ton of depth. You are vastly underestimating some of our best players from 20+ years ago. I can think of several (Taz M, TT, Stromile, etc.) within the past 20 that would be unreal 1-1 or even being left open due to the double teams on CJ, PP, and Shaq. You can't even factor what CJ & PP would do 1-1 on a consistent basis. Remember what CJ did to Georgetown 5-1 at the end of that game. CJ, PP, & Shaq could make the final 4 with 3 guys from the rant!
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:29 pm to TopWaterTiger
i like it
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