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Global debt now $307T, debt to GDP 336%

Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:56 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:56 am
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The stock of global debt rose $10 trillion in the first half of 2023, bringing it to a new record high of $307 trillion, according to a report by the Institute of International Finance released Tuesday.

The high interest rate environment seen across most economies has sent the figure soaring, making the current debt pile $100 trillion more than it was a decade ago.

The global debt-to-GDP ratio now sits at around 336%, which is up from 334% in the fourth quarter of 2022, the report said. The ratio had experienced seven consecutive quarters of decline, before resuming its upward trajectory in the first half of 2023.


It isn’t just a US problem…
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1161 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 9:57 am to
China on track to pass us up in the 2030's, but neither country looks good compared to rest of World.

Visual Capitalist Animated Debt Chart
Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
Member since Jul 2016
4335 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:02 am to
How is this accurately analyzed? I don't believe this.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 10:03 am
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54363 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:19 am to
So if everyone is in debt, then does money and debt truly even matter
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34956 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 11:41 am to
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So if everyone is in debt, then does money and debt truly even matter


I used to think that the U.S. National Debt was a major problem. But once it got in the $30 trillion range, I was like LOL. That's not even real.

It's like if I was in debt $1 million, I would freak out. If I was in debt $100 million, I wouldn't give a shite.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
61848 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:24 pm to
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China on track to pass us up in the 2030's

In what? This has been said of China for the last 3 decades.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
22053 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 8:30 pm to
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I used to think that the U.S. National Debt was a major problem. But once it got in the $30 trillion range, I was like LOL. That's not even real. It's like if I was in debt $1 million, I would freak out. If I was in debt $100 million, I wouldn't give a shite.

It will have to be wiped at some point or the debt service will bring down the whole game.

Just a question of when, how and who gets screwed when it happens.
Posted by Marshhen
Port Eads
Member since Nov 2018
968 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:16 pm to
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In what? This has been said of China for the last 3 decades.


In debt … it was discussed in the link in post.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19711 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:43 pm to
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It's like if I was in debt $1 million, I would freak out. If I was in debt $100 million, I wouldn't give a shite.


That reminds me of the old saying.

If I owe you $1m that’s my problem….if I owe you $100m that’s your problem!
Posted by Sir Saint
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Member since Jun 2010
5483 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:38 pm to
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It will have to be wiped at some point or the debt service will bring down the whole game.


I don’t think so. As long as the USD is king and US debt has buyers, the debt and debt service is just a number. I don’t see either of thise variables changing anytime soon but maybe I’m wrong, who the frick knows.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 7:50 am to
China is screwed, they buy their debt off, and this will be a reckoning on them soon. You can only do this for so long, till u realize ur screwed, and there isn't a life line.

Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 7:06 am to
Yes. But at least we get to eat roaches.
New World Order
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35963 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 10:30 am to
Does it take into account peoples savings, etc.? If I’m earning 5% on t-bills and HYSA, why not carry that 3% mortgage instead of paying it off?

And does this take into account inflation’s impact on the value of money?
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