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re: How damaging is PayPal issue regarding fines for disinformation?

Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:15 am to
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42232 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:15 am to
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I'm out of the loop - what's this in reference to?


Poorly written acceptable use policy updated to say they could fine users $2500 per incident of spreading disinformation. At their sole discretion.


Very unclear how they would execute. I don't care if I am taking donations for Hitler youth if you wanted trusted with money you don't take it. I don't care if you say I don't want your business but fine bridge too far.

They are now saying that was an error
Posted by FnTigers
Member since Sep 2021
2811 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:17 am to
It wasn't an error until the internet exploded on their arse.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
3703 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:55 am to
FPP
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95142 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 2:11 pm to
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Unsure if I am just in an echo chamber or they are going to see material drop in user/revenue




I just can't imagine a worse public relations disaster for a business in this sector and at this level of visibility. Biden is doing better in the public square at this moment than PayPal. :letthatsinkin:
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42232 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 2:50 pm to
Their value prop to me was name brand and trust.

So easily replace such and easy thing to close
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20811 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 6:05 pm to
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Would love to know impact
Stock down 52% since January, and that was before this hit.

I’d be surprised if they don’t take a big hit on the stock Monday.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84234 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

“An AUP notice recently went out in error that included incorrect information.


What the frick ever… corporate comms don’t go out on a whim, they go through multiple layers of review.

They fricked up and misread their audience.
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
10397 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 7:02 pm to
It’s just really hard the fathom that a company thought people would be onboard with what they were proposing. I don’t understand how they could be so stupid
Posted by saintsfan6
TX
Member since Aug 2016
550 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 7:07 pm to
It really defies logic that they tried to pull this. I believe it was intentional and now they are backtracking on the issue.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42232 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 7:15 pm to
I think they were always not so great about protecting clients assets

This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 7:25 pm
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6702 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 8:15 pm to
Mostly older
Folks like me who don’t like this communist shite still using PayPal anyway.

Complete misread here. Hope they bankrupt
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29565 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 8:43 pm to
Right now, you have to on/off ramp your dollars to a network that transacts stablecoins. The fiat on/off ramp is the big hurdle. Really, it's not that difficult, but most ways force you through a centralized exchange that charge for it, though I guess that's not unlike paypal or CC fees.
Posted by rickgrimes
Member since Jan 2011
4330 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:17 pm to
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PayPal has removed the ability for users to close their accounts.

That tells you how bad the situation is.


LINK

PayPal should never have been in the business of moral policing. They should have been vouching for someone's financial viability and nothing else.
Posted by HogWildJerry
Member since Oct 2022
36 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:22 pm to
Count me as one of the likely millions of people that cancelled their account.

The damage is irreparable. Nobody buys their "it was an accident!" excuse. Those Terms of Service documents are written by teams of lawyers and double and triple checked.

They have completely destroyed all trust and credibility. When it comes to a financial services company, trust is the most important trait you can possess.

Who in their right might would ever have their money tied up with a company who threatens to steal your funds for wrong-think.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
71597 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:24 pm to
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What are the alternatives to PayPal out there?

Posted by HogWildJerry
Member since Oct 2022
36 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:25 pm to
Venmo is popular but guess what, it's owned by PayPal, so no dice there.

Zelle is probably who I will use. It's jointly owned by a bunch of different mega-banks I believe.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42232 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:27 pm to
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What are the alternatives to PayPal out there?


How do you use it? When I pay online my credit card is saved in Google now
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
71597 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:33 pm to
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How do you use it? When I pay online my credit card is saved in Google now


Mostly digital subscription services but also to pay private merchants and other odds and ends.
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
14274 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 4:58 am to
Sadly with the new ESG regulations, fining people for wrongthink would improve your score as a business. No doubt this is why this was put in there.
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
The Sticks
Member since Jun 2015
9643 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 8:14 am to
Glad I closed mine when the news first came out. Not that I used it awhole lot. Just gave me further reason to reduce my potential security breaches.
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