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Posted by Jag_Warrior
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 4:48 pm to
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Anyone else buying Puts on BUD pre earnings


I’m not really a premium buyer, but what strike and expiration do you have?
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 4:59 pm to
I’ve got 10 $55 9/15 puts at an average of 1.26 and 2 $55 12/15 puts at an average of 1.95. The 9/15 set is obviously up more but the 12/15 set is safer, I believe.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 5:37 pm to
SBUX looks flat after earnings, should be great for your calls and puts. AMD up a few points too
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 6:10 pm to
Looks like you had a good entry price on the puts, a strike that’s close to the current price and you’ve got a decent amount of time value - especially on the December expiration. Hopefully BUD falls enough in price after earnings to make up for the likely drop in IV post earnings. By the options table, looks like the expected move is +/- $3.92 going into earnings.

Good luck.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

SBUX looks flat after earnings, should be great for your calls and puts. AMD up a few points too


I think we’re both looking good here.

SBUX usually doesn’t rocket or crater after earnings. I thought about doing a strangle, but this would be the one time when it might take off on me. Plus the naked calls in a strangle tend to eat up a lot of buying power on $100+ stocks.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:04 pm to
I just haven't been able to find the guts to sell the low delta calls yet. I know it's equally as profitable mathematically but I just can't do it
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:57 am to
Another beautiful morning for BUD, up over 50% on the trade so far. Thinking I’m getting a little greedy but I intended to hold through earnings when I bought. Second guessing myself now after 3 straight red days, I’m expecting a miraculous recovery tomorrow despite huge misses on earnings
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26725 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 12:44 pm to
Well well well, we may have to sweat AMD after all. What a reverse move

I actually sold some more for AMD next week since volatility is so high still. I'm at a point now where I do not mind assignment, especially for this name. Getting assigned might actually be better, especially if IV stays high so then we can sell way OTM calls against.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

Getting assigned might actually be better, especially if IV stays high so then we can sell way OTM calls against.


I got assigned a couple of times on AMD over the last year. But I was able to work my way out by selling calls against my long positions. It did take awhile, but as a trade or investment, I agree that it’s not a bad name to get assigned on. My “sinking like a rock” PYPL situation, on the other hand = Let’s see if those 64 strike puts can hold the line.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 5:20 pm to
Your puts are almost in the money now.

I’ve kinda got the other side of your trade. I’ve got short puts on BUD at the 47 strike/6 delta expiring 8/4. Here’s the sweet thing about options: opposite directional trades and we can both still make money.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Well well well, we may have to sweat AMD after all. What a reverse move.


Annnnd back up we go.

As earnings plays, I’m looking at AMZN and SQ for today. Launched some 0DTE SPVs on SPX a few minutes ago. Nice to see a decent pick up in the VIX to give better premiums. Finally back above 16.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26725 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:11 pm to
Yep, AMD going to easily expire worthless after all. With you on VIX. I bought 50 delta VXX puts yesterday a month out. The futures contracts work in your favor with that one.
Posted by LSUTIGERS74
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
280 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 1:29 pm to
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I bought 50 delta VXX puts yesterday a month out


Forgive my novice options trading vocab, but what does the above actually mean? I am just learning about the greeks. Does this mean you bought 50 puts of VXX with a low or high delta? (meaning you think the underlying continues to drop in price)

Also appreciate the suggestions on ANET,AMD and FSLY
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26725 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:59 pm to
Shorted the AMZN 118
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:06 pm to
Looks like that one is heading toward the outfield fence!

I like your AMZN setup even better than mine. But I couldn’t get my short put orders on AMZN (115 strike) or SQ (64 strike) to execute at my prices. So ended up putting on a large 8/4 SPV on SPX instead.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26725 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:22 pm to
I got a pretty bad fill to be honest, .57 or so. Had 115/92 spread to be technical. I like to buy a put back at a penny because it helps me to define risk clearly and it makes margin a moot point for me. In any event, easy >2% ROI
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26725 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:24 pm to
Nope, I bought 3 VXX puts. Delta measures how much the option is mathematically expected to move. A delta of 50 for VXX means that for every dollar VXX moves, the option would be expected to move 50 cents.

One nice feature about delta is it is roughly the percent chance that option will expire in the money.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

The futures contracts work in your favor with that one.


Once I’m done with full time employment next week, options on futures will likely be the next frontier for me. I follow the S&P in the evenings and before the open now, but can’t devote any more time to trading until I’m finally over & done with the office.

Was the VXX trade from the Trade Machine?
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26725 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 11:44 am to
It was moreso an idea confirmed from Trade Machine. The basic premise is to buy month out puts on VXX anytime it closes above 7% on a single day.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26725 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 11:51 am to
On the 91/79 BABA put spread for 8/11. Earnings play. .57 credit
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