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Posted on 8/29/19 at 8:11 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471826 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 8:11 am to
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The general rule of thumb is a 4% withdrawal rate




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Most importantly you do not even acknowledge sequence of return risk, etc

5% is a pretty solid number. well below historical index growth. i'm not dave ramsey promoting 12% growth here
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 8:14 am to
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But why?


Bro by your own admission you want to live off of $75,000 at $1.5MM. That’s a 5% drawdown. You have a chance of depletion prior to death.

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5% is a pretty solid number. well below historical index growth. i'm not dave ramsey promoting 12% growth here


5% would be a 100% equity portfolio growth estimate. Most retirees cannot be 100% equities and certainly with only $1.5MM you should not be 100% equities.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471826 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 8:17 am to
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Bro by your own admission you want to live off of $75,000 at $1.5MM. That’s a 5% drawdown. You have a chance of depletion prior to death.

a. that's another "windfall retirement" hypothesis

b. in that hypothetical, that 5% (or whatever the annual gain would be) would be the growth after interest. so i put money into fund and a year later, withdraw my "salary". it would be a net-0 (while giving me a nice "salary" to further invest in other areas)

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Most retirees cannot be 100% equities and certainly with only $1.5MM you should not be 100% equities.

well the 5% is a conservative, average return. that's well below the expected average return in equities
Posted by KingBarkus
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
8436 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 8:18 am to
$500k is a lot of money. For those itt that mentioned real estate, please clarify. Buying property to rent? Flipping? Buying land? All of the above?
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 8:19 am to
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SlowFlowPro


You really need to re-look your drawdown strategy. Get some help seriously.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 8:20 am to
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$500k is a lot of money. For those itt that mentioned real estate, please clarify. Buying property to rent? Flipping? Buying land? All of the above?


MFH put down 25% and then do a cash out refinance. Take that money and do the same on the next place, so on and so forth.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471826 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 8:20 am to
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For those itt that mentioned real estate, please clarify. Buying property to rent?

that particular poster? yes
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53562 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 9:15 am to
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Buying property to rent? Flipping? Buying land? All of the above?


All of the above, in my case. I’d personally play it pretty aggressively and try to grow a real estate business out of it.
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 10:31 am to
invest entire $500,000 and double it every seven years
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
19193 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:20 pm to
25,000 ounces silver
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74577 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 5:01 pm to
Ladder CD's and some high dividend stocks in a brokerage account and some cash on the side for bottom feeding in the next recession.

Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3578 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 8:22 am to
I owe about 350k on 3 properties. I'd probably pay those off, give my kids the rest and then just go about my day. I might buy a newer pickup, I'm driving a 2007.
Posted by TigerGrad2011
Member since Aug 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 9:28 am to
- Add $50,000 total to the 529 for the kids ($25k each)

- $75,000 would go to an emergency fund of some sort. How I would set that up and what it would be in depends on a number of factors.

- $230,000 pay off the remainder of the note on our house.

-$20,000 for two nice vacations in 2020 and 2022

- $125,000 in a taxable account


This allows us to:
- Continue to max out 401ks
- no debt other than student loans (whole tread about this)
- have fully funded 529’s for the kids
- fully funded emergency fund for what was 12 months of expenses for the family
- act like we were yesterday, just without a number of burdens that were there.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21282 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 12:40 pm to
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$25k for the toddler in a 529
$75k-$100k for each kid in High School to fund (help fund) college. I guess put it in a 529?
Let's say you have $225k left over. Put aside $25k for the next two year's badass vacation.
Invest the remaining $200k.


With the given scenario I'd do some variation of this, basically depending on how much I already have saved for the HS kids.


My situation (1 toddler):
$25k in education plan
next year's tuition in a liquid investment, then I'd fund it monthly for the following year....
Take about $100k to do shite around the house that I keep putting off and don't want to take loans out for.
Invest the rest
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4944 posts
Posted on 9/2/19 at 7:20 am to
1. Donate 50k to my church.
2. Donate 10k to missions overseas.
3. Put 50k in each of my kids college savings accounts.
4. Pay off my mortgage 325k
5. Put the balance in my IRA.

Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25112 posts
Posted on 9/2/19 at 9:37 am to
I don’t think I would change a thing. I’d DCA it into the market over the next 2 years or so and have the remainder in high yield savings in the interim. My only hesitation would be putting it all into the market right now given the volatility and where we are in the economic cycle.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 9/2/19 at 9:41 am to
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I don’t think I would change a thing. I’d DCA it into the market over the next 2 years or so and have the remainder in high yield savings in the interim. My only hesitation would be putting it all into the market right now given the volatility and where we are in the economic cycle.


Studies have proven you’ll have better outcomes if you put all $500k into the market lump sum vs DCA.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25112 posts
Posted on 9/2/19 at 10:04 am to
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Studies have proven you’ll have better outcomes if you put all $500k into the market lump sum vs DCA.


Said studies aren’t going to consider that we are in a trade war right now.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 9/2/19 at 10:34 am to
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Said studies aren’t going to consider that we are in a trade war right now.


So you’re saying never in the history of the market has there been a trade war if you can even call this a trade war outside of your TDS stricken mind?
Posted by Popths
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
4456 posts
Posted on 9/2/19 at 11:11 am to
Make yourself debt free. If disciplined, it’s crazy the amount you can save once you are debt free. Also commit yourself to never borrowing again. Being debt free is life changing.
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