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Posted on 12/19/25 at 5:13 pm to GREENHEAD22
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For all you guys holding metal, any benefits of holding coins over bullion or vice versa?
Generic bars and rounds are good for stacking … government-minted coins and bars are better, IMHO.

Posted on 12/19/25 at 5:56 pm to GREENHEAD22
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For all you guys holding metal, any benefits of holding coins over bullion or vice versa?
Not that I see. When raw metal prices soar, it significantly erodes any additional numismatic value. The only value in coins vs large bars right now is the ability to sell small amounts.
This post was edited on 12/19/25 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 12/19/25 at 6:02 pm to T-Jon
I was told by my local dealer that Saint Gaudens lower than MS65 were being melted down due to the high gold prices.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 6:13 pm to Tim
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Sitting on about 4,000 ounces in my safe. If it went that high I could easily be living on easy street…
Just remember $600 by then won't mean what $600 means now.
This post was edited on 12/19/25 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 12/19/25 at 6:17 pm to T-Jon
Is anyone selling physical silver right now? How close to spot value (ask) are you getting?
Local coin shop quoted me 12% under spot for bullion. Not so local coin shop told me they didn’t want to buy any more large bars, but they offered a commission arrangement where I would get spot value and they would get the premium.
Local coin shop quoted me 12% under spot for bullion. Not so local coin shop told me they didn’t want to buy any more large bars, but they offered a commission arrangement where I would get spot value and they would get the premium.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 6:24 pm to T-Jon
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Is anyone selling physical silver right now? How close to spot value (ask) are you getting?
No way too many people are selling right now. Remember be the contrarian which means sell when nobody is selling.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:10 am to Pimphand
Watch the first few minutes of this video….This guy does a pretty good job of explaining rule 4.07-D … which is directly forcing the paper-leveraged Silver brokers (big banks, traders) to liquidate
$421 M troy ounces of Silver bullion is a gigantic short position to cover in a short period of time. If you’re invested in paper Silver, you might want to reconsider your exit strategy….
Silver’s close above $67/oz triggered this liquidation….. and 91% of silver demands cannot be met with reported physical supply. Here comes the squeeze for physical.
I think this could become “game over” for the paper manipulators …. finally.
$421 M troy ounces of Silver bullion is a gigantic short position to cover in a short period of time. If you’re invested in paper Silver, you might want to reconsider your exit strategy….
Silver’s close above $67/oz triggered this liquidation….. and 91% of silver demands cannot be met with reported physical supply. Here comes the squeeze for physical.
I think this could become “game over” for the paper manipulators …. finally.
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 9:30 am
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:08 am to Pimphand
I've been selling at about 5$ increases since it hit 35$. So I have lost quite a bit of value, but at some point there will be a correction. The curve is like straight up at this point, and any reversion to the mean will be a big fall.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:15 am to cadillacattack
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I think this could become “game over” for the paper manipulators …. finally
The game pretty much ended back on black friday now we are just witnessing the death knell.
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If you’re invested in paper Silver, you might want to reconsider your exit strategy….
Never owned paper silver.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:42 am to Pimphand
Not to mention, but China begins severe export restrictions on Silver beginning 1/1/26.
So essentially, China arbitraged the silver markets and bought up all the Comex physical supply…. got it delivered to Shanghai, now they want to restrict its export …. shrewd
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:49 am to OccamsStubble
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After the dollar, yep.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 11:26 am to cadillacattack
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So essentially, China arbitraged the silver markets and bought up all the Comex physical supply…. got it delivered to Shanghai, now they want to restrict its export …. shrewd
Its even more pernicious than that with all the leftist limp wrist environmentalists in this country we shut down our smelters so pretty much all the worlds silver goes to China to get refined and turned into .999 pure bars.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:35 pm to cadillacattack
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$421 M troy ounces of Silver bullion is a gigantic short position to cover in a short period of time. If you’re invested in paper Silver, you might want to reconsider your exit strategy….
Silver’s close above $67/oz triggered this liquidation….. and 91% of silver demands cannot be met with reported physical supply. Here comes the squeeze for physical.
I think this could become “game over” for the paper manipulators …. finally.
In practical terms, what would "game over" for the paper manipulators look like for owners of Ag ETFs?
Posted on 12/20/25 at 4:27 pm to Pimphand
What's a loaf of bread cost in this world you see coming?
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:12 pm to Fanatics
Depends on how fast the yen carry trade unwinds and if we can leave Europe holding the bag or not.
In the near term probably $20
Could get much worse than that just look at the Weimar Republic hyperinflationary cycle.
I actually don't intend to convert the bulk of my stack to Federal Reserve Notes no matter the price. I want to trade them for other assets or if we go to a stable monetary system then I will convert them over.
In the near term probably $20
Could get much worse than that just look at the Weimar Republic hyperinflationary cycle.
I actually don't intend to convert the bulk of my stack to Federal Reserve Notes no matter the price. I want to trade them for other assets or if we go to a stable monetary system then I will convert them over.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:13 pm to Pimphand
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all the worlds silver goes to China to get refined and turned into .999 pure bars.
Canada has one smelter. We have zero. China is hoovering up all of the S. American tailings, bringing them to China and refining the silver out. They want all the silver they can get to make solar panels.
How does Samsung expect to get any silver for their new batteries? The latest rumor says a little over 35 Troy ounces, per battery.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:19 pm to Pimphand
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I actually don't intend to convert the bulk of my stack to Federal Reserve Notes no matter the price. I want to trade them for other assets or if we go to a stable monetary system then I will convert them over.
I just heard a rumor that selling to the gubmint, to have all in the storehouse, may become a requirement. for the new currency to be properly backed. The scares the hell outa me.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 11:35 pm to Hangit
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I just heard a rumor that selling to the gubmint, to have all in the storehouse, may become a requirement. for the new currency to be properly backed. The scares the hell outa me.
Replay of 1933 FDR would not surprise me but just like if you complied you got $20 per oz of gold you turned in. They then marked it up to $35 so you got fricked out of a 75% move up.
Our government sucks baw the universe rewards the strong not the weak. If they do announce a program like that I will be excited because I will have lost everything in a boating accident and they can frick themselves.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:40 am to Hangit
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How does Samsung expect to get any silver for their new batteries? The latest rumor says a little over 35 Troy ounces, per battery.
Samsung made an agreement with a Canadian company to re open a silver mine and they secured first 2 years of what is mined.
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