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Posted on 7/30/24 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Saint5446
Member since Jan 2014
907 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 10:38 pm
Hypothetically, at current prices, what would you be buying? Looking for ideas.

I know, not financial advice.

Have an IRA that is about half my retirement that got rolled over into a new fidelity IRA after firing my FA. Have about 180k in it in cash. 39 yrs old. High risk tolerance.
Posted by UncleLester
West of the Mississippi
Member since Aug 2008
9369 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:24 am to
quote:

Have about 180k in it in cash. 39 yrs old. High risk tolerance.


On this site where people sell local businesses, a gentleman is selling a gas station in Spearsville, LA.

Take. That. Risk.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35848 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 5:49 am to
If you're buying right now, I'd start with SMH, VGT and IBIT. In general, I'd look for an allocation like this for a high risk tolerance.

VOO-30%
VTV-20%
VUG-15%
VGT-10%
RSP-10%
SMH-7.5%
IBIT-7.5%
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 5:51 am
Posted by Saint5446
Member since Jan 2014
907 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 6:23 am to
Sorry let me specify, cash in an IRA, not liquid cash that can purchase a business.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5090 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Sorry let me specify, cash in an IRA, not liquid cash that can purchase a business.


Who says you can't buy a business with an IRA?
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 8:40 am
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
8871 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:26 am to
At current prices? Well...

The Volatility Index (VIX), which measures the stock market’s expectation for volatility over the next 30 days based on option prices for the S&P 500 stock index, has been steadily rising and on July 24th it rose by almost 25% in a single day marking its largest Spike since April of 2022.

So, what's that mean? Expect a huge amount of volatility in the markets for the rest of the year. While over the long haul, it won't likely matter, plopping all that $180k right now all at once could produce some significant short-term losses? Can you ride that out?

You can't time the market, and the goal is to grow wealth over the long term. Long term prospects for the broader markets, like the S&P 500, appear to be good.

Here's one possible scenario:

Maybe what you do is invest a portion (you could decide the %) of the total into a couple of ETFs that have different objectives and park the rest in a high yield money market fund. For example, take a position with a Growth ETF (like QQQM), a Dividend ETF (like SCHD or SPYI), and an S&P 500 ETF (like VOO).

In addition to something like that, consider SVOL, which has a very high yield a has been very good at minimizing downside risk. And CALF, which focuses on Small Cap Stocks and a possible uptick in the next few months.

Seeking Alpha Is A Good Research Tool.

Or:

Tips Ranks

I have a Fidelity account and love their research tools.

Then set up automatic deductions (you determine the time frame. Monthly for example). Benefit of taking advantage of dollar cost averaging (DCA) and using automatic dividend reinvestment plans (DRIPs - where the dividends you receive are automatically used to buy additional shares without you needing to do anything).

There are a million ways to do this. And we all will have our successes and failures. Main thing to me is to start doing something and be disciplined for the long haul.

Good luck!
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 9:58 am
Posted by Lawyers_Guns_Money
Member since Apr 2015
438 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:32 am to
75% VOO and 25% QQQ
Posted by jlsufan
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2021
399 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:55 am to
on the one hand, i'd say it depends on what the noncash part of the IRA is invested in as well as what the other half of your retirement is invested in

on the other, I'd say you're only 39 and time in the market beats timing the market so I'd put it all in VOO or similar and not worry

Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38433 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:59 am to
quote:

High risk tolerance.


You already know then. Put 10% into IBIT.
Posted by Saint5446
Member since Jan 2014
907 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 12:52 pm to
Thank you all for the thoughtful answers. Will check out fidelity risk tools.
Posted by SM1010
Member since Oct 2020
1352 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 1:05 pm to
If it were me?

60% s&p 500, 15% extended market (small/mid cap), and 25% International. Low expense ratio ETFs/index funds of course.

Wouldn't try anything crazy with 180k in retirement funds..
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
9865 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Who says you can't buy a business with an IRA?


Especially one with underground tanks leaking into the soil which is a financial disaster to clean up. I worked with a banker who said they would never foreclose on a gas station.
Posted by Crescent Connection
Member since Jun 2008
2367 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 1:49 pm to
$50K VOO
$50K VGT
$25K ASTS
$20K ARCC
$15K COST
$10K AMD
$10K XOM
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33090 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:08 pm to
Hypothetically OP about to buy whatever the most upvoted post says
Posted by kaaj24
Dallas
Member since Jan 2010
903 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:59 pm to
60% VOO

35% VGT

5% SCHD
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