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re: "A CFB playoff waters down the regular season"
Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:41 am to biglego
Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:41 am to biglego
For those talking about tough remaining schedules, that is exactly what the 12 team playoff will be.
Alabama still has Tennessee, Missouri, and LSU in back to back weeks and all are currently ranked top 15. Texas has UGA and Oklahoma in back to back weeks. Missouri has A&M, Alabama, and Oklahoma. UGA has Texas, Ole Miss, and Tennessee left. Some more spread out than others.
If you don't have the first round bye, you'll have to play 3 top 10 style teams in a row to even get to the championship game. Those fighting for one of those 9-12 seeds at the end of the season have more to play for.
Alabama still has Tennessee, Missouri, and LSU in back to back weeks and all are currently ranked top 15. Texas has UGA and Oklahoma in back to back weeks. Missouri has A&M, Alabama, and Oklahoma. UGA has Texas, Ole Miss, and Tennessee left. Some more spread out than others.
If you don't have the first round bye, you'll have to play 3 top 10 style teams in a row to even get to the championship game. Those fighting for one of those 9-12 seeds at the end of the season have more to play for.
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:45 am to tide06
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Vandy beat a team that beat the likely ACC champ on the field
1) No they didn't. It was a bullshite to overturn that TD call, but acting like Vandy was anywhere close to that via the trasitive effect is just stupid.
2) USCe destoyed UK, who nearly beat UGA, who nearly beat Alabama. So according to you, USCe is going to beat Alabama, right? And since LSU beat USCe on the road, they will also beat Bama.
Do you not see how stupid your logic is?
Bama as usual causes the system to break by getting too much benefit and bias towards it.
Undeserved title in 2011 and then undeserved spot over an undefeated FSU. Was Bama on that day better? Sure, because of the injury for FSU, but FSU earned it by going undefeated in a P5 conference with legitimate OOC games.
Instead, Bama got rewarded as usual.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:46 am to lsufball19
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Yes an unbelievable game that may have determined a national champion 15 years ago now may not mean anything more than who’s seeded higher in the playoffs
It was only incredible because Bama nearly choked a historic lead away.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:46 am to rintintin
after all said and done gonna be uga bama osu ut or something like that
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:05 am to tigerfan88
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Because it’s the first year people are still treating regular season games the way they always have I.e. like every game is super important. Once people realize that these preseason number ones and name brand teams will have to lose 4 games to miss the playoffs you’ll start to see a lot of regular season intensity fade. Georgia can lose to Texas and Tennessee and still will make it.
And Bama has already clinched a playoff spot in late September. Bc they’ll also need four losses to not make it.
Fat chance. With 2 losses, maybe you are in. Zero chance any coach allows their team to be ok with losing 2 chances, because chances are that 2nd loss will be what eliminate some teams. 3 losses? There will have to be a lot of frickery in order for them to still make it in.
Nobody is ever making a 12 team playoff with 4 losses. Stop the hyperbole.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:06 am to rintintin
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A CFB playoff waters down the regular season
Yep
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:34 am to Geauxgurt
You sound absolutely unhinged because of your obvious issues with Bama.
Bama has nothing to do with anything being discussed other than they happen to be one of the best teams in the country and are in the SEC.
-Vandy beat Va Tech on the field.
-Va Tech had Miami beat until the play was overturned as has been discussed nationally.
-Va Tech is the 6th best FEI team in the ACC.
-They’d be 12th in the SEC right ahead of UF.
Your tortured defense of the ACC is badly flawed.
-USCe, who lost their QB, is the FEI 29th ranked team in the country. With their QB they beat LSU and are likely in the top 12 nationally.
-UK on the other hand just beat a top ten team on the road and played UGA heads up. They’re the #19 team in the country right now.
-So both USCe and UK are very competitive top 25 or better teams when healthy.
-Vandy on the other hand lost to Georgia State and is the 82nd ranked team in the FEI. They’re not good.
Va Tech however lost to that 82nd ranked team, only has wins against Marshall and ODU, is barely in the top 50, yet they went on the road and outplayed Miami.
The ACC is absolute garbage. Clemson was blown out by UGA, Miami is hanging their hat on a win against a UF team who has basically quit and who is there after that? You rolling with Duke? BC almost lost to WKU who Bama beat by a million week 1.
Let’s see how this would stack up (FEI):
UGA (2) >>>> Clemson (9)
Bama (3) >>>> Miami (15)
Texas (5) >>>> Louisville (20)
Tennessee (6) >>>> SMU (24)
Ole Miss (7) >>>> Cal (44)
LSU (10) >>>>> Va Tech (45)
OU (17) >>>>> UNC (53)
UK (19) >>> Duke (57)
Missouri (23) >>>> Ga Tech (60)
Texas A&M (26) >>>> FSU (61)
So for the top 10 schools in both conferences there isn’t a single game that wouldn’t be a three score line in favor of the SEC.
The average ranking:
SEC: 11.8
ACC: 39.6
Avg difference between schools: 27.8
Winning the ACC isn’t equivalent to winning the SEC and doesn’t deserve to be rewarded via CFP seeding like it is. There are 5 teams in the conference who’d be favored over Clemson right now. That’s the point.
The rest of what you posted isn’t even worth addressing. TLDR LSU fan is salty about Bama, news at 11.
Bama has nothing to do with anything being discussed other than they happen to be one of the best teams in the country and are in the SEC.
-Vandy beat Va Tech on the field.
-Va Tech had Miami beat until the play was overturned as has been discussed nationally.
-Va Tech is the 6th best FEI team in the ACC.
-They’d be 12th in the SEC right ahead of UF.
Your tortured defense of the ACC is badly flawed.
-USCe, who lost their QB, is the FEI 29th ranked team in the country. With their QB they beat LSU and are likely in the top 12 nationally.
-UK on the other hand just beat a top ten team on the road and played UGA heads up. They’re the #19 team in the country right now.
-So both USCe and UK are very competitive top 25 or better teams when healthy.
-Vandy on the other hand lost to Georgia State and is the 82nd ranked team in the FEI. They’re not good.
Va Tech however lost to that 82nd ranked team, only has wins against Marshall and ODU, is barely in the top 50, yet they went on the road and outplayed Miami.
The ACC is absolute garbage. Clemson was blown out by UGA, Miami is hanging their hat on a win against a UF team who has basically quit and who is there after that? You rolling with Duke? BC almost lost to WKU who Bama beat by a million week 1.
Let’s see how this would stack up (FEI):
UGA (2) >>>> Clemson (9)
Bama (3) >>>> Miami (15)
Texas (5) >>>> Louisville (20)
Tennessee (6) >>>> SMU (24)
Ole Miss (7) >>>> Cal (44)
LSU (10) >>>>> Va Tech (45)
OU (17) >>>>> UNC (53)
UK (19) >>> Duke (57)
Missouri (23) >>>> Ga Tech (60)
Texas A&M (26) >>>> FSU (61)
So for the top 10 schools in both conferences there isn’t a single game that wouldn’t be a three score line in favor of the SEC.
The average ranking:
SEC: 11.8
ACC: 39.6
Avg difference between schools: 27.8
Winning the ACC isn’t equivalent to winning the SEC and doesn’t deserve to be rewarded via CFP seeding like it is. There are 5 teams in the conference who’d be favored over Clemson right now. That’s the point.
The rest of what you posted isn’t even worth addressing. TLDR LSU fan is salty about Bama, news at 11.
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 10:17 am
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:43 am to KosmoCramer
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The real question is if rivals play the last weekend of the season and both have clinched for the conference title game. There is literally nothing to play for.
Or this scenario. Tennessee is a lock for the CFP. If they beat Vandy the last game of season, they have to play Alabama in the SEC championship. Which is two weeks before CFP.
How badly does Tennessee really want to play in the SEC title game? How many starters do they rest vs Vandy? Or SEC title game?
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:43 am to kciDAtaE
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Wait until the last week or two of the season.
I don't think the resting of starters will be as bad as many are doomscasting.
This isn't the NFL where there will be tangible "clinched" situations.
College teams will still have to rely on the wildcard that is the selection committee.
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 9:45 am
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:46 am to rintintin
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There are still 25 or so teams that feel like they have a shot at the playoffs. Usually at this point in the season that number is maybe 10.
I was on the CFB waters down the regular season wagon, but I have since jumped off it. As an LSU fan, it is nice to not be out of contention after a loss to start the season.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:50 am to Geauxgurt
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Last night’s UGA/Bama game was entertaining, but means almost nothing in terms of what happens at the end of the year. It was a glorified exhibition basically.
I couldn't disagree with you more. Both of those teams have multiple very losable games left on their schedule. Not only could that loss keep them out of the playoff, it could be the difference between having a 1st round bye, hosting a 1st round playoff game, or being on the road for a 1st round playoff game. So while it didn't eliminate them from playoff contention, it could still have a massive impact on the postseason.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:58 am to rintintin
It's a quantity over quality thing.
With the new format, more games will be meaningful than before.
However, it also means games that in the previous format would be absolutely monumental (eg. a top 5 matchup in November) aren't as big because both teams are sure to get in.
With the new format, more games will be meaningful than before.
However, it also means games that in the previous format would be absolutely monumental (eg. a top 5 matchup in November) aren't as big because both teams are sure to get in.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:01 am to 632627
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However, it also means games that in the previous format would be absolutely monumental (eg. a top 5 matchup in November) aren't as big because both teams are sure to get in.
Everyone is getting hung up on this part. It isn't just about getting in, it is a bye, a home game, or a road game, depending on seeding.
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