- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Anyone following the chess drama?
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:11 pm to Civildawg
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:11 pm to Civildawg
Magnus and Hans are both in a tournament that starts next week. No word further from Magnus on any of the controversy, but we did have Chess.com taking the measure of banning Hans from its money matches in the middle of the Sinquefield Cup.
Anyone have any predictions about the upcoming tournament? My prediction? Magnus just plays it off and doesn't even comment further, leaving us to guess at his real intent.
Anyone have any predictions about the upcoming tournament? My prediction? Magnus just plays it off and doesn't even comment further, leaving us to guess at his real intent.
0
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:24 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
This Hans character sounds like someone the Astros will be hiring any minute now
Let us know when it stops devouring your soul.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:49 pm to Civildawg
Murray Head is the Davone Bess of MSB when it comes to chess
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:34 am to WestCoastAg
quote:pussy
WestCoastAg
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:32 am to RidiculousHype
quote:
How do you cheat in chess?
in this case the accusation is that a member of the champs team was a spy for the upcoming opponent and spy shared ideas that were the subject of the attack plan. say you look at the opponents wins. you see his past ideas. so you spend time attempting to either defeat the opponents plan or how to avoid it. anyhow someone was sharing Intel.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:30 am to CelticDog
quote:
in this case the accusation is that a member of the champs team was a spy for the upcoming opponent and spy shared ideas that were the subject of the attack plan. say you look at the opponents wins. you see his past ideas. so you spend time attempting to either defeat the opponents plan or how to avoid it. anyhow someone was sharing Intel.
so this was done before the match? assuming so, how is that a problem? i know nothing about chess so just trying to learn something here
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:50 am to ThisWayChad
quote:
so this was done before the match? assuming so, how is that a problem? i know nothing about chess so just trying to learn something here
I know how to play but haven’t in years. I don’t follow chess at all, but how is it any different from scouting an opponent?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:56 am to ThisWayChad
quote:
so this was done before the match? assuming so, how is that a problem? i know nothing about chess so just trying to learn something here
As far as I know it hasn't been confirmed to happen so this is still hypothetical, but scouting the opponent's past games is something every GM does. But if someone on Carlsen's team was leaking prep to Hans then that would be like if two football teams were about to play each other and someone on team A's staff gave someone on team B's staff a list of scripted plays for the first drive and detailed info on how team A prepared for team B throughout the week.
Carlsen playing a move he's never played before and Hans saying he studied it from a previous game that doesn't exist is pretty suspect. Add to it that he's actually had cheating issues before (albeit all online and not OTB) it does seem kind of fishy. Though there are other GMs that are saying they don't think he cheated so honestly who knows.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:20 am to WaterLink
So he didn't have a remote controlled vibrator up his arse giving him computer generated moves via morse code as some surmised?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:28 pm to 0
quote:
Judging by the measures put in place afterwards, I believe the thought was he had some type of device that was allowing someone else to relay the computers best move back to him. I know he has been in trouble in the past with cheating but that was during online games where it would be exponentially easier to cheat.
When you hear about computers beating grandmasters those are supercomputers. With any kind of reasonable time parameters desktops aren't even competitive with grandmasters. For a normal player cheating online is easy but grandmasters cheating this way in live action seems high risk for middling reward.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:31 pm to Strannix
quote:
Magnus is the GOAT anyway
It's Alekhine with Fischer in his prime the only one close.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:39 pm to shinerfan
quote:
When you hear about computers beating grandmasters those are supercomputers. With any kind of reasonable time parameters desktops aren't even competitive with grandmasters. For a normal player cheating online is easy but grandmasters cheating this way in live action seems high risk for middling reward.
By supercomputer, you mean what exactly?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:39 pm to shinerfan
I always think Lasker gets underrated in talks about all time chess greats. Capablanca overtook him but Capablanca was in his prime and Lasker was an old man by that point.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:01 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
By supercomputer, you mean what exactly?
Thousands of CPUs working together? I may well be off in my terminology but my point was that desk tops aren't getting wins against grandmasters with any regularity if at all.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:02 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
By supercomputer, you mean what exactly?
quote:
Hardware requirements for programs are minimal; the apps are no larger than a few megabytes on disk, use a few megabytes of memory (but can use much more, if it is available), and any processor 300Mhz or faster is sufficient. Performance will vary modestly with processor speed, but sufficient memory to hold a large transposition table (up to several gigabytes or more) is more important to playing strength than processor speed.
And Stockfish is currently the best program.
quote:
Stockfish can use up to 1024 CPU threads in multiprocessor systems. The maximal size of its transposition table is 32 TB.
I generally agree that you need advanced computers to beat human GM's, but by and large, you are in good hands with an early recommendation from a reasonably strong computer running a good program.
I think Magnus threw a bit of a fit, but I don't trust Niemann at all, either.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:57 pm to Civildawg
I have no idea why but this is fascinating. just watched the 12 min YT video breaking it down.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:01 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
So he didn't have a remote controlled vibrator up his arse giving him computer generated moves via morse code as some surmised?
I was totally shocked this thread wasn’t discussing that theory instead of the more probable ones
Posted on 9/19/22 at 6:26 pm to wildtigercat93
Magnus and Hans played in a game today and Magnus resigned on move 2. So whatever he knows, or thinks he knows, he definitely stirred things up even more.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:33 pm to CelticDog
quote:
n this case the accusation is that a member of the champs team was a spy for the upcoming opponent and spy shared ideas that were the subject of the attack plan. say you look at the opponents wins. you see his past ideas. so you spend time attempting to either defeat the opponents plan or how to avoid it. anyhow someone was sharing Intel.
This theory has been since debunked. Magnus has a very small team that he has had forever and they wouldn’t be selling him out to Hans Neimann.
Hans has a past of known and now admitted cheating at the ages of 12 and 16 online but ever since Covid he had a pretty historic rise for a 19 year old that seemed destined to be stuck at the 2400-2500 range. This rise has come directly from brief over the board run that has him now besting some of the greats. I think it’s more a something just doesn’t smell right.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:36 pm to ThisWayChad
quote:
so this was done before the match? assuming so, how is that a problem? i know nothing about chess so just trying to learn something here
When these super GMs prepare for a match they prep like 15-20 moves to make sure they can get to a position they are familiar with that their opponent is not as prepared for. These matches can be decided by one movement out of order so any little advantage matters. And if your opponent knows what you prepared they can easily set a trap for you in your own position.
Page 2 of 3
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News