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re: CFB Blue Blood Rankings
Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:13 am to Boodis Man
Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:13 am to Boodis Man
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How is Florida on there but not FSU ?
FSU is #16. But FSU became a women's college for like 40 years and quit playing football. Florida has 182 more all time wins than FSU. FSU is missing a ton of history but would otherwise probably fall more in the Penn State/UGA/LSU/Tenn grouping
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:23 am to LSUbub12
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Most of the programs ranked 11-15 are all way better than Nebraska and Penn state this century
Too bad this century is only 25 years old and college football is 156 years old.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:39 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Can you really join the blue blood list?
No. A blue blood is essentially "old money". The nouveau riche will never be old money.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:40 am to Yeti_Chaser
The year is 2125
Notre Dame hasn’t won a title in over 100 years. They are still considered blue blood
Yawn
Notre Dame hasn’t won a title in over 100 years. They are still considered blue blood
Yawn
Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:40 am to MFn GIMP
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No. A blue blood is essentially "old money". The nouveau riche will never be old money.
New money becomes old money at some point
Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:47 am to Yeti_Chaser
Can't hate on the list too much but LSU should be over Georgia, Nebraska and certainly Penn St.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:21 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Can't hate on the list too much but LSU should be over Georgia, Nebraska and certainly Penn St.
based on what? Only NCs in last 25 years as far as UGA is concerned.
I personally think the list is right and punishes teams like Nebraska and UT that have had very long down periods.
if things continued, nebraska would be in the 12-13 range in another decade and falling.
auburn and FSU would have to be in the 16-20 range
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:21 am to iwyLSUiwy
Good list and methodology. Only thing I would suggest is a higher weight to undefeated but no NC seasons as until the 4 team playoff, it also required luck / favorable polls to be recognized NC.
Texas in 69 and Nebraska in 94 get more credit than undefeated PSU teams in those years. LSU gets 8 points for their 2007 NC despite 2 loses (not their fault everyone else had 2 losses) which only happened once. Literally any year prior to the 4 team playoff they would not have been recognized NC.
Texas in 69 and Nebraska in 94 get more credit than undefeated PSU teams in those years. LSU gets 8 points for their 2007 NC despite 2 loses (not their fault everyone else had 2 losses) which only happened once. Literally any year prior to the 4 team playoff they would not have been recognized NC.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:30 am to lsu777
Looking a little deeper, having Georgia over LSU is fine. I'd say there's an argument for LSU but Georgia having four more SEC titles is a pretty strong argument.
Penn St is a regular season blue blood and Nebraska has been irrelevant for a long time. I think it's easy to put LSU over them.
Penn St is a regular season blue blood and Nebraska has been irrelevant for a long time. I think it's easy to put LSU over them.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:48 am to Yeti_Chaser
Funny how these last 15 years (and Saban's dominance) changed perception so much.
In 2009 (with the 2000s fresh in the mirror, ESPN's Blue blood rankings, analyzing since 1936 with points for wins, Nattys, Conference Titles, Heismans, # of weeks ranked AP #1 , etc.
1. Oklahoma (Voted the No. 1 team in the country by the AP a record 97 times)
2. USC
3. Ohio State
4. Notre Dame
5. Nebraska
6. Alabama
7. Texas
8. Michigan
I think Sarah was hired in 2009 and flipped the ever-changing Blue blood rankings/percentage, recency bias.
In 2009 (with the 2000s fresh in the mirror, ESPN's Blue blood rankings, analyzing since 1936 with points for wins, Nattys, Conference Titles, Heismans, # of weeks ranked AP #1 , etc.
1. Oklahoma (Voted the No. 1 team in the country by the AP a record 97 times)
2. USC
3. Ohio State
4. Notre Dame
5. Nebraska
6. Alabama
7. Texas
8. Michigan
I think Sarah was hired in 2009 and flipped the ever-changing Blue blood rankings/percentage, recency bias.
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 11:52 am
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:14 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Funny how these last 15 years (and Saban's dominance) changed perception so much.
That’s what happens when you win 88% of your games and 6 nattys baw
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:29 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Penn St is a regular season blue blood and Nebraska has been irrelevant for a long time. I think it's easy to put LSU over them.
but the 60s-90s they were so much better than LSU that it is just getting close
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:47 pm to Yeti_Chaser
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9. Penn State 4.96
10. Georgia 4.88
11. LSU 4.69
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:02 pm to lsu777
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auburn and FSU would have to be in the 16-20 range
Good guess. FSU came in at #16 (impressive considering they disbanded for 40 seasons) and auburn came in at #17.
18-20:
Washington
A&M
Pittsburgh
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:14 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Georgia over LSU
UGA has 82 more wins than LSU. Had LSU not vacated nearly 40 wins during the Miles era it would be a lot closer. The other key difference is that LSU hasn't spent much time as AP#1. 2003 they never ranked LSU #1 and 2007 it was short lived. 2019 took a while to get to #1. I think 2011 was probably when we were ranked #1 the longest
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:31 pm to Yeti_Chaser
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Good guess. FSU came in at #16 (impressive considering they disbanded for 40 seasons) and auburn came in at #17.
18-20:
Washington
A&M
Pittsburgh
figured those would be somewhere in top 25
let me guess the others.....
in particular order:
mich state
ole miss
ucla
arky
oregon
lmk how close
others that may be
colorodo based off 80-2005
minn- based off old success
GT- based mainly off bobby dodd
Iowa- based off consistency of haden frye and now KF.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:33 pm to Yeti_Chaser
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UGA has 82 more wins than LSU. Had LSU not vacated nearly 40 wins during the Miles era it would be a lot closer. The other key difference is that LSU hasn't spent much time as AP#1. 2003 they never ranked LSU #1 and 2007 it was short lived. 2019 took a while to get to #1. I think 2011 was probably when we were ranked #1 the longest
yea i dont count vacated stuff....those games were played on the field and should count....but UGA should still be right in front of us based off them essentially matching us the last 25 years and them having 4 more conference titles than us
Im good with original rankings, so long as you didnt try to justify fricking Tenn above LSU and UGA.....that shite pisses me off when people do that.
them and auburn are way worse than bama IMO about making up fricking championships. pisses me off.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:56 pm to Yeti_Chaser
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Rose/Sugar/Fiesta/Orange bowl wins: 3 points
Peach/Cotton Bowl Wins since 2014: 3 points
The Cotton Bowl was the traditional big NYD game through the 1994 game (after 1993 season). Then the Fiesta Bowl replaced it.
I would suggest a small change of Cotton Bowl wins through Jan 1, 1994 as 3 points and then give 3 points for Fiesta Bowl wins only after that.
Probably won't change result much but may give the former BIg-8 / Big-12 teams a little boost (OU, Texas, Nebraska).
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:28 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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I think Sarah was hired in 2009 and flipped the ever-changing Blue blood rankings/percentage, recency bias.
saban hired before 2007 season.
and yea adding 6 NCs in less than 15 years tends to do that
also USC going back to Pre Carrol era, Ohio State hiring Urban along with texas/michigan/nebraska sucking for a whole decade tends to throw things for a loop
add in OU going through a lull and then not being able to compete on the national stage tended to sway things just a little.
i mean we could go back another decade and in 99 the blue blood list would look quite different(pre Bob Stoops, Mack Brown and Pete Carrol
1) Michigan
2) Notre Dame
3) Nebraska
4) Ohio State
5) Penn State
6) USC
7) Alabama
8) OU
9) Texas
Things change, programs fall off. Some recover, some dont.
most of the above do have the resources, tradition, facilities and alumni support to be good in any era...Nebraska does not and will struggle just based off ability to pay NIL extra on top of rev share.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:28 pm to lsu777
Pretty much spot on
21. GA Tech
22. Mich State
23. Oregon
24. UCLA
25. Arky
26. Ole Miss
Minnesota is 28
Iowa is 29
Colorado 31
21. GA Tech
22. Mich State
23. Oregon
24. UCLA
25. Arky
26. Ole Miss
Minnesota is 28
Iowa is 29
Colorado 31
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