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Posted on 6/21/15 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by HoustonTiger2008
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 4:01 pm to
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Annnnd he gets the game winning hit today giving him three game winning hits in the last 9 days.


Castro with yet another game winning RBI. That's 4 game winners in 10 days. 3 hit game. He is so terrible.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 4:32 pm to
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Castro with yet another game winning RBI. That's 4 game winners in 10 days. 3 hit game. He is so terrible.


At least he hit the Sac Fly in the air. He's gotten a lot of roll over slow infield grounder hits this year, but I'm not gonna take away from the real 3 game winning hits he's gotten of late. I want him to do well. He really is a talent, just needs to get his head on straight...he's been in the league 6 year.

And kudos to Arrietta for the rare complete game.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 4:39 pm to
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Castro with yet another game winning RBI. That's 4 game winners in 10 days. 3 hit game. He is so terrible.




he opened the day with the lowest OBP and SLG of anyone in our lineup today.

in a lineup that featured 3 rookies and Chris Denorifia


you're still clueless as ever, even with a new name

i wont even mention him going into a HR trot from 1st base on Coghlan's hit that he thought was a HR. Ball hits the wall and he's jogging to 3rd base. In which he should have scored. Little things like that. Couple that with his terrible and indifferent defense and he'll never be a championship caliber player. Anyone that watches the Cubs daily can see that.
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 4:44 pm to
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in a lineup that featured 3 rookies


Revealing to me how quickly teams adjust. Schwarber starts out on fire then they figure out he'll swing at high pitches out of the strike zone. For some reason they gave him one low and away today 0-2 and he hit it, otherwise they stuck to the script and struck him out pretty consistently.

And teams have discovered Bryant can't hit a change yet, and any pitcher that has a decent one is going to throw it almost every pitch to him. He'll adjust, he has to..it's a game of adjustments and he's too good and dedicated.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 5:09 pm to
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he opened the day with the lowest OBP and SLG of anyone in our lineup today.




Something about not having all the pressure for once will allow him to relax and succeed. Or something.
Posted by piggidyphish
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 5:39 pm to
Does Castro deserve criticism? Sure. Is it over the top? Absolutely.

And to be fair. The defense of him might be over the top too. I still support Castro though.
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 5:41 pm
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 6:43 pm to
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Does Castro deserve criticism? Sure. Is it over the top? Absolutely. And to be fair. The defense of him might be over the top too. I still support Castro though


I think you hit the nail on the head piggy. The lack of focus at times for me is maddening though.

As long as he's a Cubbie I will support him and pull for him, doesn't mean I don't get bent with him at times.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 6:45 pm to
How is it over the top?

A careless player that continually fricks up deserves every bit of backlash. He's the definition of a liability.

Even when he is sucking at the plate (which has been most of the season) he has no redeeming quality. He's not fast, he doesn't hustle, he misplays routine ground balls, overall just lacks a feel for the game. And despite Maddon's coachspeak praise, he's the complete opposite of the Maddon prototype that they preached all spring about. Respect 90 my arse
Posted by piggidyphish
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 6:53 pm to
I disagree that he has no redeeming qualities and that's the type stuff that I think is over the top.

I defend Castro to much I know. And I know he will continue to frick up and cubs fans will run for their pitchforks. I'm good with that.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:10 pm to
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I disagree that he has no redeeming qualities and that's the type stuff that I think is over the top.




what are they, exactly? i mean i know he is at least supposed to be an average MLB shortstop as far as hitting. When he isnt doing that, is there something else he does that can help this team?

i dont think im being over the top when i say he doesnt have any redeeming qualities. Im often dumbfounded by his play nightly, and i want him to prove me wrong, but he never does
Posted by Nature Boy
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:14 pm to
He does a great impression of Kris Bryant, so he's got that going for him.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:57 pm to
He gets paid less than Edwin jackson and plays everyday. He's not Jonathan Herrera. There's two.

Out of curiosity what would you have the cubs do with Castro?

I say you play him everyday.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 8:10 pm to
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than Edwin jackson and plays everyday. He's not Jonathan Herrera. There's two.



So nothing that helps the team on the field?

Anything there?

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of curiosity what would you have the cubs do with Castro?



Trade him. For anything. Bullpen arm, prospect, whatever. Let Russell or Baez take their lumps at SS.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 8:16 pm to
Yea. He's better than the guy that would fill his spot, Herrera. I consider that something...on the field.

If he's so bad why should anyone trade for him? I've never understood that. This guy sucks. Trade him. Who wants a guy that sucks?
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 8:22 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 8:49 pm to
Middling players are traded all the time.
Posted by piggidyphish
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:11 pm to
So what do we then do with another bad player we traded him for?

I'm not saying you don't trade him. I just think he has vale and should not be traded "for anything"

This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 9:13 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:31 pm to
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So what do we then do with another bad player we traded him for?

I'm not saying you don't trade him. I just think he has vale and should not be traded "for anything"




yes, i think we should trade him for shitty players. Way to go, Mr Literal.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:35 pm to
Sorry just trying to figure out where "for anything" and giving the player credit for being a valuable asset you fall

So hyperbole is fine but questioning it gets a mr literal retort...c'mon man.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:46 pm to
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Sorry just trying to figure out where "for anything" and giving the player credit for being a valuable asset you fall



I wouldnt consider him a "valuable" asset, he currently has the worst WAR on the team. But he does have value given his past, being that SS is a thin position overall in the MLB. And our organizational depth makes him expendable, to a point where we can improve a weakness by moving the guy.


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So hyperbole is fine but questioning it gets a mr literal retort...c'mon man.




if you didnt recognize that there was some exaggeration there, then fine. But im pretty sure you did. Even a league average SS has value. No, im not going to answer your question about what we do with the "terrible player" in return. Sorry i struck a nerve with my castro hate.
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 10:48 pm
Posted by piggidyphish
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 7:29 am to
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I wouldnt consider him a "valuable" asset,


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But he does have value given his past, being that SS is a thin position overall in the MLB


I'm so confused.

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if you didnt recognize that there was some exaggeration there, then fine. But im pretty sure you did.


yea...it's the rabble rabble starlin is the worst shite. The kind of stuff that is silly.

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Sorry i struck a nerve with my castro hate.


a nerve of frustration with with amount of shite people sling at the guy. I can admit i defend him too much, but it's in response to how overboard you guys go. This is after all what you were looking for when you asked if there were still any castro defenders around here, right?

Since we're offering insincere platitudes, sorry I didn't just ignore your over the top hate.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 7:48 am
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