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re: Indiana is the most impressive team of all time
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:15 am to whowasbert
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:15 am to whowasbert
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1995 Nebraska is more impressive
People don’t look at the context of 1995 Nebraska’s season relative to the rest of the Osborne era.
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Won 62-24 vs #2 Florida
Won 44-21 vs #5 Colorado
Win 49-25 vs #7 Kansas State
Won 41-3 vs #9 Kansas
1) Osborne was 50-0 in 25 years against Kansas and KSU, and neither team had any world beaters in 1995.
2) Osborne was 21-3-1 against Colorado. All three losses and the tie were against Bill McCartney, who was gone in 1995.
3) 1995 Florida was good, but they were very young (Wuerffel, Hilliard, Anthony, Green, etc., all returned in 1996) and not good defensively. The 1993 and 1994 Nebraska teams that rolled into the Orange Bowl undefeated faced future NFL Hall of Famers on D and coaches who had schemed against them before. It’s a little harder to run all over Derrick Brooks, Ray Lewis, and Warren Sapp than that Florida group.
4) None of their OOC opponents won more than six games - one even folded the program after the season. Nebraska played many great OOC opponents in the ‘70s and ‘80s. Teams that won national titles like 1978 Bama, 1982 Penn State, 1991 Washington, and other great teams. Nothing like that in 1995.
5) Barry Switzer (OU) was 12-5 against Osborne, and he was busy winning the Super Bowl in 1995.
Osborne’s greatest struggles from 1973-1993 before he won a natty were his 5-12 record against Switzer and his seven game bowl losing streak from 1987-1993. All of that happened against teams with a hell of a lot better run defenses than anything the 1995 team faced.
Literally everything that challenged Osborne for 20 years - Switzer, McCartney, great OOC opponents, Miami and FSU in bowl games (usually in the dreaded Orange Bowl stadium) - was out of the way in 1995.
And there was nothing exceptional about 1995 Nebraska’s personnel compared to other Osborne teams. Osborne had a lot of great teams and players. Even players with national awards named after them. They just didn’t play the season on rookie mode like 1995.
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:12 am to msutiger
Meh, we'll see, Miami has some tremendous athletes at every position?It will stretch Indiana and give them the test we need to see.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:16 am to HailToTheChiz
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What does age have to do with talent?
As a fan of Auburn, you should know what experience buys a team. How quickly you forget your 2010 national championship team. How many players were eventually drafted from that roster? Two? And they managed to beat a team with 11 future first rounders on the two deep on the road while doing it. Sometimes talent isn’t everything.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 9:18 am
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:21 am to Globetrotter747
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Globetrotter747
Do you just have a notepad with a fully typed essay ready to go every time you see someone mention the year 1995?
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:49 am to msutiger
Most of the team is approaching retirement age
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:49 am to RollTide1987
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Do you just have a notepad with a fully typed essay ready to go every time you see someone mention the year 1995?
Its funny because its true. Anytime someone mentions 95 Nebraska he loses his shite.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 10:32 am to msutiger
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Indiana is the most impressive team of all time
Posted on 1/10/26 at 10:33 am to RollTide1987
Nothing stopping other teams from getting older players
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:10 am to TigersHuskers
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Its funny because its true. Anytime someone mentions 95 Nebraska he loses his shite.
Because some of the whipper snappers here lack context in their thinking. They look at scores and don’t know that Nebraska always had a tendency to score high against teams with poor run defenses but struggled against strong ones.
From 1980-1993, before winning a national championship, here’s how many times Nebraska scored 50+ points:
50-59: 25
60-69: 12
70-79: 4
80-89: 1
And here’s how many times the national champion in each of those seasons scored 50+ points:
50-59: 20
60-69: 2
70-79: 0
80-89: 1
So Nebraska scores 50+ 42 times while the national champions in those seasons (and I included 1990 Colorado / Georgia Tech, 1991 Miami / Washington - so two extra teams) did it 23 times. And those national champions were 8-0 against Nebraska in that span, holding the Huskers to 15, 24, 30, 7, 12, 21, 0, 16.
I’m just telling you. You shouldn’t be as impressed by 1995 Nebraska’s scores as they look on their own. Osborne always scored a bunch against inferior defenses and when you take out prime Oklahoma, prime Colorado, anything OOC, and a bowl opponent that didn’t emphasize defense (much less run defense) and lacked familiarity with them you aren’t left with much to challenge them.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 11:11 am
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:24 am to RollTide1987
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As a roster their average age is 23.2.
So BYU should be historically the GOAT program?
Lot of guys in Minor League baseball that are "older" and playing for years, never seen the Show...because, you know, they don't have next level talent.
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These guys are doing it without five stars.
Like how suddenly "age" = "elite talent" ...nowhere does age mean success or outweigh talent...people are really grasping at straws to downplay, denigrate or disparage Indiana because they can't handle the new reality... So lets make up some age thing and act like its cause to add an asterisk, gimme a break.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:36 am to msutiger
It’s by far the best turnaround and most impressive coaching job of all time.
However, these guys aren’t close to Nebraska 95, lsu 19, Texas 05, Miami, usc etc.
However, these guys aren’t close to Nebraska 95, lsu 19, Texas 05, Miami, usc etc.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:43 am to Diseasefreeforall
the average age is just over 22 years old
Posted on 1/10/26 at 12:07 pm to msutiger
Trollgame weak
Posted on 1/10/26 at 12:09 pm to msutiger
When Indy's team sport 14 players getting drafted in April and a total of 30 over the next 2 years from this team, then we can talk.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 1/10/26 at 1:05 pm to msutiger
You dumb..
Posted on 1/10/26 at 1:07 pm to Globetrotter747
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Globetrotter747
Show us on the doll where Herbie Husker touched you
Posted on 1/10/26 at 1:08 pm to RollTide1987
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People have been making a big deal out of this but hardly seem to realize that 70% of Indiana's starting lineup is made up of players who have been playing college football for the past 5-6 years. As a roster their average age is 23.2. For comparison: Alabama's is 20.8 and Green Bay's is 25. Five of their starters were in the same recruiting class as Bryce Young and Young has been a starting QB in the NFL for the last three seasons.
Something has to be done about this eligibility bullshite. It needs to be 5 to play 4 again with an OCCASIONAL 6 due to 2 injuries.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 1:14 pm to RollTide1987
quote:is this fact? Entire roster or starting line up?
As a roster their average age is 23.2.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 1:37 pm to Chicken
This board for years would laugh at every and any team who didn’t have top 10-15 recruiting classes. It’s almost as if SEC fanbases were brainwashed so companies like Athlon, Rivals, ESPN could make money off the “recruiting” rankings etc. Even right now, we still have threads about portal class rankings.
Indiana would have been mocked and laughed at by every poster on this board 2 years ago. Heck, you guys dismiss everyone who didn’t have a top 5 class. So, yes, what Indiana is doing right now is single handedly the most unique thing we’ve ever seen in this sport. They came out of nowhere and have proved the entire history of the sport is fake. These so called bluebloods were created due to cheating. Indiana proved anyone can be a blueblood by paying. It’s gonna be awesome watching these rural schools fall down the ladder as big boy money enters the sport.
Indiana would have been mocked and laughed at by every poster on this board 2 years ago. Heck, you guys dismiss everyone who didn’t have a top 5 class. So, yes, what Indiana is doing right now is single handedly the most unique thing we’ve ever seen in this sport. They came out of nowhere and have proved the entire history of the sport is fake. These so called bluebloods were created due to cheating. Indiana proved anyone can be a blueblood by paying. It’s gonna be awesome watching these rural schools fall down the ladder as big boy money enters the sport.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 1:40 pm to TigersHuskers
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Show us on the doll where Herbie Husker touched you
I don’t dislike Nebraska. I think the 1995 team gets more love than the 1971 and 1994 teams because their path was easier.
The 1971 team had one close regular season game against an OU team orders of magnitude better than anyone the 1995 team played.
The 1994 team had to deal with Ray Lewis, Warren Sapp, and the Orange Bowl voodoo. They also played Kordell Stewart, Rashaan Salaam, Michael Westbrook, and Bill McCartney in the regular season.
The 1971 team actually had a receiving threat in Johnny Rodgers. The 1994 team had guys like Zach Weigert and Brenden Stai in the OL and a Pro Bowl FB in Corey Schlesinger that were all better than their 1995 counterparts and that were the difference in the game against Miami.
A lot of Nebraska teams in the Devaney-Osborne-Solich years could have crushed a Big 8 schedule with a rock bottom OU and then pushed around that Florida front.
Nebraska had a seven game bowl losing streak and were 5-12 against Switzer not because they sucked back then but because they had to deal with legends like the Selmon Brios., Bosworth, Casillas, Cortez Kennedy, Marvin Jones, Derrick Brooks, Lewis and Sapp.
It’s a hell of a lot harder to run the football on those guys.
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