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re: Joe Burrow’s dad tries to tamp down speculation they don’t want to be Bengals
Posted on 2/6/20 at 12:49 pm to kywildcatfanone
Posted on 2/6/20 at 12:49 pm to kywildcatfanone
Cincy has a young offensive minded head coach, a WR group with talent (even if AJG doesn't return, Boyd/Ross/Tate is solid), and one of the best young running backs in the NFL. Jonah Williams will be back to reinforce the offensive line. They get other draft picks to build around Joe, including pick 33.
The "Bengals are an awful spot for Joe" narratives seem pretty exaggerated.
The "Bengals are an awful spot for Joe" narratives seem pretty exaggerated.
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Posted on 2/6/20 at 12:50 pm to HM11AU
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Except his GF is from Cincinnati and Burrow was with a realtor looking at houses in Cincy last week.
Yikes that sucks.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 12:54 pm to Cap Crunch
Yeah it’s all media driven, it sucks that Dan Patrick is included.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 12:58 pm to weadjust
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NFL Playoffs appearances since 2009
Cincy 6
Dallas 4
Wash 3
Buff 2
Miami 1
Jville 1
Clev 0
Tampa 0
Odd timeframe, but whatever. The Bengals haven't won a Playoff game since the 1990 season.
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Brown appears to be doing better than Jerry @ Dallas and Dan Snyder @ Washington who give max effort and budget.
If that's the bar we're setting, OK.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:00 pm to Packer
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Cinci was 2-14 with 7 losses decided by 7 pts or less last year
Ryen Russillo is going to destroy you
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:02 pm to DallasTiger45
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Cincy has a young offensive minded head coach, a WR group with talent (even if AJG doesn't return, Boyd/Ross/Tate is solid), and one of the best young running backs in the NFL. Jonah Williams will be back to reinforce the offensive line. They get other draft picks to build around Joe, including pick 33. The "Bengals are an awful spot for Joe" narratives seem pretty exaggerated.
Now do organizational structure, lack of scouting, analysts, etc compared to the majority of nfl franchises. But hey they have a few average young WRs so it’s all good.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:03 pm to LNCHBOX
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Odd timeframe, but whatever. The Bengals haven't won a Playoff game since the 1990 season.
I’m not sure why people are more concerned about winnings 1 playoff game but not teams who have won 1 but haven’t made the playoffs anywhere near as often.
Would you view the bengals that much better if they had won 1 playoff game in those years and getting bounced?
I’ll take 6 years in the playoffs over going less and winning 1 game organizationally.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:07 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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Why can't Joe be the one who changes it in Cinci?
Because Mike Brown either needs to die or sell the team for things to turn around in Cinci. Brown needs to send Dan Snyder a cake every year to thank Dan for taking the heat off of Mike for being the worst owner in the NFL.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:15 pm to wildtigercat93
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I’m not sure why people are more concerned about winnings 1 playoff game but not teams who have won 1 but haven’t made the playoffs anywhere near as often.
Would you view the bengals that much better if they had won 1 playoff game in those years and getting bounced?
I’ll take 6 years in the playoffs over going less and winning 1 game organizationally.
They haven't been to the playoffs in 5 years. They were on a heater from 2009-2015. It's disingenuous to use that time frame when they couldn't win one of those games, and have done absolutely nothing since 2015. They have steadily declined since 2015.
quote:I think actually doing something in the playoffs is important if your organization is serious about winning.
I’ll take 6 years in the playoffs over going less and winning 1 game organizationally.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:17 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Joe Burrow’s dad tries to tamp down speculation they don’t want to be Bengals
Joe Burrow is 23 years old, maybe his dad should let him handle his own business.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:46 pm to RLDSC FAN
*refuses to go to Bengals*
*Gets drafted by the Browns or Jets*
*Gets drafted by the Browns or Jets*
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:46 pm to LNCHBOX
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They haven't been to the playoffs in 5 years. They were on a heater from 2009-2015. It's disingenuous to use that time frame when they couldn't win one of those games, and have done absolutely nothing since 2015. They have steadily declined since 2015.
So they have more recent data showing the ability to make the playoffs consistently than a large chunk of the league. In one of the toughest divisions in the game during that era.
Doesn’t sound like winning is impossible there.
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I think actually doing something in the playoffs is important if your organization is serious about winning.
So winning 1 WC game in the past decade or so while missing the playoffs every other year is a better option to you than making the playoffs 6 times and not winning a game? I don’t get that logic.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:51 pm to wildtigercat93
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So they have more recent data showing the ability to make the playoffs consistently than a large chunk of the league
No, they have recent data that they can't make the playoffs and are trending even further away from it.
quote:I don't se how you got that out of 0 playoff wins in 30 years and getting worse for the last 4 years.
Doesn’t sound like winning is impossible there.
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So winning 1 WC game in the past decade or so while missing the playoffs every other year is a better option to you than making the playoffs 6 times and not winning a game? I don’t get that logic.
You're right the Bengals are a terrifically run franchise right now. You've sold me.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:59 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Then, Joe himself said he wanted to play for a team “committed to winning Super Bowls,” which sounds a lot like what the first Palmer was saying.
EVERYONE WANTS TO WIN SUPER BOWLS. THATS THE POINT.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:04 pm to LNCHBOX
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No, they have recent data that they can't make the playoffs and are trending even further away from it.
But they have a more recent data point than a large chunk of the league that they can make it in. And no one would be freaking out if those teams had the #1 pick.
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I don't se how you got that out of 0 playoff wins in 30 years and getting worse for the last 4 years.
Do you want to use their entire resume the last 30 years, or the last 4 years, or the run which they are good? You’re cherry picking and specifically discounting their run of success because it doesn’t fit your argument. Yes they are historically a bad franchise. But they have shown recent success being able to consistently win enough to earn a playoff berth.
And yes they have been terrible the past 4 years but so has pretty much every team who ends up with the 1st overall pick. That’s just how that shite rolls. And a great QB is the quickest and most effective way to change that.
It’s not a stretch to think if they can win consistently with Andy Dalton, then Burrow can come in and win in the playoffs with that franchise
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You're right the Bengals are a terrifically run franchise right now. You've sold me.
Strawman argument. Be better.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:06 pm to Packer
quote:Bengals make the playoffs from time to time. They usually draft towards the beginning of the draft. Becuase of their draft spots, they typically have good young players that are relatively inexpensive....
It isn't that shocking to think he can turn around the Bengals to at least an above average team.
That's not the issue.
The issue is that they are cheap. Owner makes his living off of the Bengals. So, they don't have the best scouts, trainers, coaches, staff, etc... And they don't pursue the endeavors that would facilitate winning Superbowls.
Is it possible that a player like Carson or Joe could elevate the team to winning? Yes....
But, it would be like winning the SB despite the organization. It's much, much, much harder to do.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:18 pm to wildtigercat93
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But they have a more recent data point than a large chunk of the league that they can make it in. And no one would be freaking out if those teams had the #1 pick.
Going 0fer since 2015 is the most recent data. I'm really not seeing your argument here.
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Do you want to use their entire resume the last 30 years, or the last 4 years, or the run which they are good?
You can pick for all I care. The Bengals are among the worst no matter which one you choose, which is the point.
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Strawman argument. Be better.
Your argument is that they are not a terribly run organization. Recent and long term data suggests otherwise.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:34 pm to LNCHBOX
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Your argument is that they are not a terribly run organization. Recent and long term data suggests otherwise.
My argument is that they are not an impossible organization to win at.
Big gulf of difference there.
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You can pick for all I care. The Bengals are among the worst no matter which one you choose, which is the point.
False. They were one of the top teams in playoff berths during that dalton era.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:40 pm to BeachDude022
Cincy did right by Carson Palmer, brought him along gently, and that team was building to be great, and of course on the 2nd play of his first playoff game, he gets injured.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:50 pm to wildtigercat93
Stop being a crawfish. The Bengals are arse. If Burrow were top flight, he could change their fortunates but they are trading in Dalton to get a taller less ginger version of him.
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