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Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:49 pm to
So they refused to play #1 Texas in the Cotton.
LSU didn't go to a bowl because they thought the Sugar Bowl was beneath them.
Posted by Rrrrroger
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:49 pm to
Joe Pa is enjoying all those mythical natties as he burns in hell
Posted by Whitey83
Member since Aug 2025
214 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:12 pm to
I don't see Penn State giving back 82 or 86 any time soon.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5509 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:27 pm to
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1992 Alabama had no business beating champion Miami by 3 touchdowns but they sure did. Bama was supposed to be too slow.

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Where was the SEC speed in the Nebraska/Florida Fiesta Bowl blowout?

That Fiesta Bowl is overrated.

1) All of Florida’s key players (Wuerffel, Hilliard, Anthony, etc.) were underclassmen who returned the next season. They were a young team.

2) Not one Florida defender on the field for the 1995 team would be drafted higher than the third round over the next three years. No players like Deion Sanders, Cortez Kennedy, Bill Hawkins, Jimmie Jones, Jesse Armstead, Michael Barrow, Derrick Brooks, Ray Lewis, Warren Sapp, etc, that gave Nebraska a seven game (damn near eight game) bowl losing streak from 1987-1994 were on the field that night. The 1995 Florida defense had zero NFL-ready studs on D, which was Osborne’s kryptonite and why he struggled against the Switzer, FSU, and Miami defenses that frequently had such players.

3) Spurrier only cared about the passing game and no coach on the UF defensive staff had ever faced Nebraska. Not exactly a great combination from a defensive preparation standpoint.

1992 Alabama, on the hand, had several All-SEC, All-Americans, and future first round draft picks on D. Stallings didn’t give a shite about anything but the running game, and all the guys on the defensive staff (Oliver, DuBose, Rouzie, etc.) cut their teeth in the wishbone era and against teams with styles similar to Nebraska. They would have played that Nebraska offense far better than Florida did.

1995 Nebraska only played 12 games total and faced just one player who would be first round pick the following spring. That is a joke compared to what teams have faced in the playoff era.

The more great players you play, the more likely it is that someone is going to get hot and whip your arse. 1996 Texas was only 7-4 and unranked when a certain future All-Pro RB named Priest Holmes ran all over Nebraska’s arse and upset them in the Big XII Championship game and cost them a chance to win another natty.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 5:30 pm
Posted by Whitey83
Member since Aug 2025
214 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:36 pm to
Yeah, I always thought Nebraska was a product of their conference and it showed in bowl games. Outside of 83, they got really good after Switzer left and OU was on probation. Went straight to hell after that.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:39 pm to
Penn State played some weakish schedules in the late 60s. That was the rationale, anyway.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5509 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:13 pm to
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Yeah, I always thought Nebraska was a product of their conference and it showed in bowl games. Outside of 83, they got really good after Switzer left and OU was on probation. Went straight to hell after that.

Once Switzer and McCartney (Colorado) left, there were no longer any challengers for Nebraska in the old Big 8.

People say, “1995 Nebraska beat three top ten teams in the regular season.” Well, look at it deeper than that. Who were the teams? Kansas, Kansas State, and Colorado. Osborne was literally 50-0 against Kansas and Kansas State in his 25 years. It wasn’t teams out of Kansas that troubled Osborne. Colorado lost McCartney, Kordell Stewart, Rashaan Salaam, and Michael Westbrook.

1995 Nebraska played no one noteworthy who was at their collegiate peak or was an NFL stud.

Osborne would have had a lot more undefeated teams if the other 24 groups could have played a standard Big 8 schedule with a rock bottom OU, no OOC opponent with more than six wins, and a bowl opponent with no respect for defense or the running game.

I’m not saying 1995 Nebraska wasn’t great, but the schedule and bowl matchup was a lot more favorable for them than most of Osborne’s years.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 6:14 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29619 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:22 pm to
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You do realize UF beat LSU by like 45 points that year, right?


What does that have to do with Nebraska prison-shanking you guys?
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:31 pm to
So that means Tulane can claim 98..... right on!

PRINT THE SHIRTS!
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29619 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:34 pm to
You have some valid points, but I’m not buying that the Fiesta Bowl was overrated. How is a National Title game overrated in terms of performance?

Florida had the athletes. They’ve had the athletes for years. They sucked fundamentally. The argument was about speed and athletes.

UF was good enough to paste Florida State and Bama but suddenly they’re super flawed against Nebraska?
Posted by Whitey83
Member since Aug 2025
214 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:39 pm to
Sure. If you had a perfect season before the playoff era, claim it. The NCAA does not officially award a champion, even now with a playoff.

Hell, USC can still claim 2004, because the AP will not change their vote from that season.
Posted by Whitey83
Member since Aug 2025
214 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:41 pm to
*USC did vacate everything else from 2004, but not the AP title, because the AP doesn't gaf about NCAA decisions.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
40004 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:46 pm to
Dr Tom and JoePa were both sanctimonious hypocrites.
Posted by Whitey83
Member since Aug 2025
214 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:50 pm to
Paterno could still win governor of Pennsylvania if he were alive.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
7090 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 8:32 pm to
What does that have to do with Bama prison shanking you guys?
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39263 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 8:35 pm to
1994 for sure.

Kerry Collins and Ki-Jana Carter were robbed.

No. 1 Penn State 63, No. 15 Ohio State 14.

Ohio State hadn't given up over 60 points since 1902. Penn State is the only team I've seen be ranked #1 most of the year, not lose, and still drop in the Polls - once Dr. Tom started rumors he was going to retire, so writers and Coaches (who desperately wanted to give him 1 National Title before retiring) gave him a retirement gift...he realized they were gonna be way better the next year, so he came back of course for more.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 8:36 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60944 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:05 pm to
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Penn State is the only team I've seen be ranked #1 most of the year


Why do people believe stuff that’s 100% false and so easy to look up?

PSU was #1 for 2 weeks, Florida for 7 and Nebraska for 8. Nebraska was # 2 when #1 Florida lost and fell to #3 despite receiving the most first place votes.

1994

ETA and Nebraska moved past Penn St after beating #2 Colorado a week before Penn State gave up a late TD vs Indiana


This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 9:07 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216346 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:12 pm to
I still believe PSU could have beaten ‘94 Nebraska.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5509 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:43 pm to
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UF was good enough to paste Florida State and Bama but suddenly they’re super flawed against Nebraska?

Nebraska’s strengths played into Florida’s weaknesses. Youth, lack of physicality, poor defensive coaching.

Spurrier’s teams often struggled against physical offenses, especially in the first half of his tenure. Terry Bowden’s first few Auburn teams that ran the I probably most closely resembled Nebraska at the time (with big backs like James Bostic and Stephen Davis at TB and Tony Richardson at FB) and scored 38, 36, and 38 against Florida from 1993-1995. I remember ND and Jerome Bettis running all over them in the Sugar Bowl in 1991 out of some T formation sets.

Teams that lined up in 2-3 back sets and run at Florida often had success.

I think people overemphasize the Fiesta Bowl because that’s really the only team Nebraska played all year that had anyone worth a shite. The best NFL talents of 1995 were guys like Keyshawn Johnson, Eddie George, Marvin Harrison, Jonathan Ogden, Terry Glenn, Ray Lewis, and Tim Biakabutuka. Nebraska faced none of them.

With a team like 2019 LSU people talk about them beating Bama and 50 first round draft picks at BDS and outscoring a 12-1 OU team with an All-Pro WR and QB that just won the Super Bowl 49-14 in the first half.

1995 Nebraska played no one with elite NFL firepower. That’s unavoidable for teams in the playoff era that play more conference games, a conference championship, and multiple postseason games.

If 1995 Nebraska had played Peyton Manning or Orlando Pace blocking for Eddie George someone might have made them bleed.

The 1996 Nebraska team would have played FSU for the national title if they hadn’t been upset by a 20.5 pt. underdog Texas team in a conference championship that they didn’t have to play the year before.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
7090 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:53 pm to
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If 1995 Nebraska had played Peyton Manning

Dude we hung 62 on Peyton that year. Just stop.
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